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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 26 July 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 30 April 2024

John Mason

I will continue with you, Ms Killean. If a child is on the autism spectrum and is a victim of something, which commissioner would they go to if there were three?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 30 April 2024

John Mason

You are certainly the highest profile at the moment. Would you then have to reach agreements with all the other commissioners—say, if we have 14—as to who does what?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 30 April 2024

John Mason

If the SHRC were to be given more powers and had different departments, would that make the whole system more joined up than it is with separate commissioners?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 30 April 2024

John Mason

That is a nice simple answer, thank you.

Ms Killean, you said that you have quite a good relationship with the Education, Children and Young People Committee. Should we, as MSPs, be doing more of the work that you are doing?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 30 April 2024

John Mason

Okay. Ms Agnew talked earlier about independence. I do not know whether you saw that we had the Scottish Biometrics Commissioner in. I asked him the question because he had made the point about other commissioners, some of whom are appointed by the Government, such as the Scottish Veterans Commissioner and the Police Investigations and Review Commissioner, which you mentioned. Does it make a difference if commissioners are appointed by the Government or Parliament?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 30 April 2024

John Mason

Okay. I will switch to the other witnesses.

One of the things that I have thought about, and is why I have been asking about this, is whether we can put everything into the SHRC and merge things. I asked the previous witnesses, as well, and they were resistant to that. One of the issues—if I am not mistaken—for the children’s commissioner and the SHRC is that international obligations make it impossible to put folk together in one commission.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 30 April 2024

John Mason

Okay.

Finally, in your submission, you talk about the need for adequate resources to widen access to front-line advice and so on. Do you need more resources now and, if so, how much more? Is it 50 per cent more or twice as much?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 30 April 2024

John Mason

I was once suspended for nine months as a councillor. At the time I had not even realised that there were two separate organisations—if there were at that time. It just seemed like all one process. If it had been one organisation it would have made no difference to me.

Dr Plastow, I picked up in your submission—I think you have mentioned it already—that some of the other commissioners are not legally separate, such the chief inspectors of constabulary, prisons, and prosecutions. Are they less independent than you and your colleagues are?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 30 April 2024

John Mason

Are they less independent?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 30 April 2024

John Mason

That has been covered. It is more the independence bit that I was interested in.