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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 8 November 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 19 November 2024

John Mason

According to the savings section of the financial memorandum, it does not appear that the bill will result in a lot of savings. At the moment, it seems to me that parents—better-off parents, I presume—are paying most of the money for kids to have residential experiences. I think that 60 per cent or thereabouts of primary school kids go on residential trips at present. That means that there will be a big saving for better-off parents. Is that the best use of the money? I do not know what proportion of the £30 million, in effect, represents a saving to parents—maybe we are talking about half or a third of it. Is there not a better way of using public money? Some parents are willing and able to contribute, and some schools say that they benefit from fundraising and from kids working together to raise money for such events. Will we not lose out on all of that?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Revenue Scotland

Meeting date: 19 November 2024

John Mason

It might need to be reviewed. That is great, thanks very much.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Revenue Scotland

Meeting date: 19 November 2024

John Mason

What was the reason for the three-yearly reviews? Most 10-year leases will not change.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Revenue Scotland

Meeting date: 19 November 2024

John Mason

Okay. That is helpful. Perhaps the issue can go into Liz Smith’s finance bill when it comes along.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 19 November 2024

John Mason

But we will need more teachers to get involved in residential outdoor education. It will not be possible to rely only on the teachers who are already involved in it.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Revenue Scotland

Meeting date: 19 November 2024

John Mason

On a completely different point, you still have one female and six males on the board. How long will that continue, and when will there be a bit of a balance?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Revenue Scotland

Meeting date: 19 November 2024

John Mason

Right, okay. That is fine.

The report indicates that service user satisfaction is at 76 per cent. Is that good or bad?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Revenue Scotland

Meeting date: 19 November 2024

John Mason

I want to ask about the 1 per cent for admin costs. I am wondering how realistic that is going to be. I saw that you have been doing work on green freeports relief; I suspect that that relief might mean that your revenues fall. You have also been doing work on the Visitor Levy (Scotland) Bill, and you might not get very much money out of that. Is the 1 per cent realistic? I get your point about digitisation and that kind of thing.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 19 November 2024

John Mason

Is there not a risk that, if the provision becomes a statutory requirement, that might discourage trusts from giving money? At the moment, trusts might think, “This is a voluntary exercise in the charitable sector.” Would they have a valid argument in saying, if the Parliament is requiring such provision, the Parliament should pay the money?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Schools (Residential Outdoor Education) (Scotland) Bill: Financial Memorandum

Meeting date: 19 November 2024

John Mason

However, none of the centres in Scotland could cope with a whole class from a special needs school.