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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 24 July 2025
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 16 May 2024

John Mason

Okay. I will leave it at that just now.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 16 May 2024

John Mason

Should there be an automatic entitlement? That would be simpler.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 14 May 2024

John Mason

Sticking with your committee, we have the Ethical Standards Commissioner and the Standards Commission for Scotland. Do we need both? They both defended themselves when they were here, but I remain unconvinced that we need two separate bodies.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 14 May 2024

John Mason

To start with, I will follow on from what Michael Marra asked you, Ms Haughey. You have said various things. You specifically talked about system-wide issues, and then you said that, because of the history of the problems through the 1960s and so on, that is specifically why there is a need for the patient safety commissioner. I am asking you to speculate a bit, but do you think your committee would take a different view if a commissioner was proposed for something specific such as multiple sclerosis or arthritis? Some of the arguments are that some people’s voices are not being heard, and their voices would be heard more if there was a commissioner for different kinds of disability—that has been proposed—and so on and so forth.

Was the patient safety commissioner unique because of the circumstances?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 14 May 2024

John Mason

I realised that from one of your colleagues. Our earlier witnesses said when they were speaking for their committee and when they were speaking for themselves. We can take that on board if you want.

I have mentioned specific cases, but my underlying question is about how, on the one hand, we avoid having a huge organisation that would cover everything and how, on the other hand, we avoid having so much overlap. It seems that the more commissioners we have, the more overlap there will be, and your committee might suffer as a result of that.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 14 May 2024

John Mason

Do you think that, because young people do not have a vote, there is a special argument for their commissioner—

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 14 May 2024

John Mason

Do disabled people not have the same right?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 14 May 2024

John Mason

Okay. Mr Whitfield, you have suggested that a commissioner should report to a committee, which might simplify the system. Another suggestion that has come to us is that the commissioner should work more hand in glove with the relevant committee and that they should see themselves as doing the same work. It was even suggested that the committee should assign work to the commissioner. Do you have any thoughts on that?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 14 May 2024

John Mason

One argument is that, despite the good work that the third sector does in a lot of areas, it does not have the power to make binding recommendations—that phrase has been used a number of times. It would be quite strong if bodies could dictate. You suggested that one body—I am sorry, I cannot remember which one it was—makes recommendations that almost always are accepted.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scotland’s Commissioner Landscape

Meeting date: 14 May 2024

John Mason

Following on from that, another model that has been suggested to us—this would probably not affect some of your areas, Mr Whitfield—is the Scottish Human Rights Commission being given a bit more power so that it could cover human rights overall in areas such as disabilities and children, which would all fall within that, although there could be separate rapporteurs for those groups. Do you have any views on what the effect of that might be? You have mentioned the issue of complexity.