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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Education Exchange Programme and Further and Higher Education Issues

Meeting date: 21 June 2023

Graeme Dey

If you are referring to some form of emergency funding package for colleges or the general approach to funding, we are absolutely not in a position to provide additional funding to colleges right now. On what future funding looks like, Withers is very clear that there is no shortage of funding in the skills and post-school education landscape. It is about how we better utilise that funding. That will form part of the discussion that we have around Withers and taking that issue and various other things forward.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Education Exchange Programme and Further and Higher Education Issues

Meeting date: 21 June 2023

Graeme Dey

To be clear, the meeting next week is for us to try to get agreement and put something firmly in place. Once we are in a position to do that, I hope that we will be able to write to the committee jointly to outline what is happening.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Education Exchange Programme and Further and Higher Education Issues

Meeting date: 21 June 2023

Graeme Dey

Now you are trying to put me on the spot, convener.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Education Exchange Programme and Further and Higher Education Issues

Meeting date: 21 June 2023

Graeme Dey

I think the universities will be engaged in conversations with other ministerial colleagues on that.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Education Exchange Programme and Further and Higher Education Issues

Meeting date: 21 June 2023

Graeme Dey

They would not have been able to use it for a voluntary severance scheme. I said that previously. The flat cash settlement is the colleges’ core funding. The £26 million was for transition projects, the nature of which were still under discussion with the Scottish Funding Council. The colleges would not have been able to use that money for voluntary severance schemes.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Education Exchange Programme and Further and Higher Education Issues

Meeting date: 21 June 2023

Graeme Dey

As a minister, I would not engage directly in operational matters, but from the conversations that I have had when visiting colleges and in other meetings with college principals, as I understand it, principals have sought to protect the courses that are absolutely required to be protected. Those include the type of courses that you have highlighted. I specifically asked principals about that point, and they have been very clear with me about that. You might have examples, which I would be interested in, of where that is not the case, but for the most part, as far as I am aware, colleges and their principals have sought to protect those courses. However, as I said, if you have evidence to the contrary, I am happy to hear that.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Education Exchange Programme and Further and Higher Education Issues

Meeting date: 21 June 2023

Graeme Dey

In what sense?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Education Exchange Programme and Further and Higher Education Issues

Meeting date: 21 June 2023

Graeme Dey

I do not want to get into the specifics of one particular example, but you raised good points about the robust nature of oversight by college boards in any locality and about the role of the Scottish Funding Council.

I realise that there will come a point when I have to stop making this comment, but I have been in post for 12 weeks, so I am still getting my head around the nature of some of the processes that are followed. However, as I understand it, the SFC has given assurance that due process was followed in that example. I am alive to the very fractious nature of industrial relations that sees claims and counter-claims made. As politicians and as the Government, we have to deal in facts.

More generally, I am taking a keen interest in the form that college governance takes.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Education Exchange Programme and Further and Higher Education Issues

Meeting date: 21 June 2023

Graeme Dey

It is not necessary, at the moment, so I can understand why it is not happening. I have to look at what we might do in the future. I saw your reaction to my pointing out that anomaly, and I think that you get where I am coming from. We need to look at it.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Scottish Education Exchange Programme and Further and Higher Education Issues

Meeting date: 21 June 2023

Graeme Dey

We have already been clear that we would fully align with Erasmus post-independence. I am saying that we have a plan to arrange a pilot project this year and to get it up and running, and that is what we are going to do.