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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 15 August 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 15 November 2023

Kevin Stewart

By the sounds of it, there have maybe been too many meetings and not enough action.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 15 November 2023

Kevin Stewart

Thank you very much, Mr Boland.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 15 November 2023

Kevin Stewart

There has been quite a lot of talk today about collaboration. We have just touched on communication, and I want to concentrate on collaboration and communication. Let us start with collaboration, because I think that it is in all our interests to ensure that the north-east does not just survive but continues to thrive. I think that most folk from the area would agree that that should be the case.

To get to that point, we all have to collaborate. Ms Harrick, in particular, has talked about the collaboration that exists across the industry. Is there enough collaboration between Governments—the Scottish and the UK Governments—industry, academia and communities for us to get this right?

Let me give you an example. Ms McCarthy said that it sometimes took 12 years to get a major project all the way through from planning to consent. We recognise that we do not have a huge amount of time to make the just transition. What do we need to do by way of collaboration to get the Governments and all the other parties, such as industry and communities, to understand that we need to do this a bit more speedily than we are at the moment and to be a bit more flexible as we move forward? Maybe Ms McGinlay would like to answer first.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 15 November 2023

Kevin Stewart

Does anyone else want to come in on that?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 15 November 2023

Kevin Stewart

I will be very brief.

Aberdeen and the north-east have been a global player in the oil and gas industry—top of the tree—and I am sure that we all want the same to be the case in relation to renewables in the future. I could ask lots more questions about planning and consenting, but I wonder whether the witnesses could oblige us by writing to us on how they think that the planning and consenting system could change in order to be beneficial for the just transition.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 15 November 2023

Kevin Stewart

You have finite resources, as we all have finite resources. You talked about the information gap. One of the things that I hear quite regularly is about folk not being able to access help and support from Scottish Enterprise or others. I think that it was Ms McGinley who talked earlier about bringing SNIB in on a roadshow; I think that she mentioned Scottish Enterprise. Could you, with partners including SNIB and others, regularly run roadshows over the next while in Aberdeen and the north-east to help companies to plug the information gap and help them to secure their futures? Often, one of the difficulties that is faced is that support is not quite there.

I will turn that on its head to give credit where credit is due. I know of a company that has had Scottish Enterprise support in recent times and has grown very quickly indeed. I will not mention it because I do not have its permission to do so. It has grown very quickly because it got sound advice, basically, but not a huge amount of financial support.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 15 November 2023

Kevin Stewart

My first question is for Mr McGuinness, who will have heard Mr Boland talk about the skills passport. I recognise that you do not have complete management over this, Mr McGuinness, but where are the blockages in getting that right for people?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 15 November 2023

Kevin Stewart

It would be very useful—I think that this is required, really—if you could write back to the committee. Perhaps OPITO could write to the committee as well, convener, or we can write to OPITO to find out what the blockages are, because I would be withdrawing the pizza, basically.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 15 November 2023

Kevin Stewart

And, as you said at the beginning, in order to have thriving communities, we must have jobs.

I want to move on to the issue of certainty, which is difficult when we are in a change phase. When Governments change tack at various points, such as we have seen with the UK Government’s climate change ambitions being diluted, what does that lack of certainty do to industry in particular? What does it do from the point of view of investment and confidence among industry members?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 15 November 2023

Kevin Stewart

Does anyone else want to come in on that?