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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 12 July 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (North-east and Moray)

Meeting date: 10 January 2024

Gordon MacDonald

I want to continue the conversation about the job situation. You rightly touched on the RGU “Making the Switch” report, which highlights that

“90% of the North-East of Scotland’s existing oil and gas workforce has medium/high skills transferability to adjacent energy sectors.”

It also suggests that, if we get this right, we could have 54,000 jobs by 2030, and the Government’s figure is 77,000 jobs by 2050. Other than skills, what challenges are facing the north-east in becoming the global energy hub that can look after installed offshore wind, hydrogen generation and carbon capture and storage? What challenges are we facing in getting those 77,000 jobs?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Gordon MacDonald

You talked about the substantial losses that were made in 2020 and 2021 due to the lockdowns. However, Rystad Energy highlighted that Russia’s invasion of Ukraine

“catapulted refining from famine to feast in term of margins.”

Was it a mistake for Petroineos to cut the site’s refining capacity by 30 per cent?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Gordon MacDonald

You mentioned that current demand is for 150,000 barrels per day. When you close the refinery in five years’ time or whenever it happens to be, what will happen to that demand?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Gordon MacDonald

Good morning. I want to continue the discussion on the background to the decision to move towards closure, whether it be in May 2025 or later. You talked about macroeconomic challenges. Are there economic challenges that are impacting only the Grangemouth refinery, or are the same issues impacting the other five refineries in the UK and, indeed, those across Europe?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Gordon MacDonald

When you cut from 210,000 barrels to 150,000, you must have thought that that 150,000 barrel demand was sustainable, at least in the short term.

You operate another plant at Lavera in France. You have talked about the demand in Europe, and you have said that you are exporting at a loss. Will those European customers now be served from the French refinery that you own, which is another old BP refinery?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Gordon MacDonald

My final question is in two parts. First, I was not able to find your financial accounts for the year to December 2022. They are not available from Companies House. What was your financial position at the end of December 2022?

Secondly, has a final decision been taken to close the refinery? What would it take to keep it open for a longer period of time? You talked earlier about the capex of £40 million. Are there any other factors that we need to take into account to keep it open?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Gordon MacDonald

Okay. Thanks very much.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Gordon MacDonald

If it is a no-loss company, how did you make substantial losses? I picked the losses up from the manufacturing company.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Gordon MacDonald

What were the group profits?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Gordon MacDonald

Right.