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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 19 November 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Artificial Intelligence (Economic Potential)

Meeting date: 12 November 2025

Gordon MacDonald

How do we get things right so that we do not stifle innovation? Has any country already gone down that path and started to get the regulation right?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Artificial Intelligence (Economic Potential)

Meeting date: 12 November 2025

Gordon MacDonald

We have talked about the need to support AI and to help to grow its use, and about making us a centre of excellence. However, is there a need for regulation, given that there are issues with quality, trust and probably even ethics? Professor Schaffer, since you are the person who put that thought into my head at the beginning of the meeting, I will ask for your view on that.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Artificial Intelligence (Economic Potential)

Meeting date: 12 November 2025

Gordon MacDonald

Okay, I will leave it at that. Thank you.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Artificial Intelligence (Economic Potential)

Meeting date: 12 November 2025

Gordon MacDonald

Good morning. Forgive me, but for a wee while there I thought that I had entered the health committee’s meeting. [Laughter.]

As I was listening to what all of you said, I noted that there are questions about trust, transparency, bad actors and overreliance on AI, and that this area needs confident leadership. I also noted a comment made at the beginning of the meeting about how, at the time of the birth of the internet, regulators did not move quickly enough. What should the role of the Government be now, as far as AI is concerned?

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Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Artificial Intelligence (Economic Potential)

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Gordon MacDonald

I will leave it there. Thank you.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Artificial Intelligence (Economic Potential)

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Gordon MacDonald

Should there be a role for Government? You have talked about the need for trust, safety and quality frameworks, but we want everybody to be working to the same standard. Given that AI has been around for 30 years, what legislation is in place to govern it? Should we have a regulator? I am not saying how effective these regulators are, but we have Ofcom and the Office of Gas and Electricity Markets. Should there be a regulator that covers AI?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Artificial Intelligence (Economic Potential)

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Gordon MacDonald

Given that AI has the potential to improve productivity and make businesses more efficient—that is another way of saying not employing more people or reducing head count—what policies are needed to support such a workforce transition? Is that not a role for Government?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Artificial Intelligence (Economic Potential)

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Gordon MacDonald

Good morning. Just to reassure you, every question that I will ask has come from ChatGPT. [Laughter.] Yesterday, I asked a variety of models what questions I should ask you guys, and every model gave me different answers.

My first question is about governance. The vast majority of our companies are SMEs with fewer than 50 employees. If they have an IT department, it will consist of only a couple of folk, so they will be dependent on third-party software and one of the AI engines that were mentioned earlier that handle expenses, planning or whatever in the background. We must get it right so that they can make informed decisions and the use of AI improves productivity, which we have talked about. How are AI systems tested, validated and monitored for safety?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Consumer Scotland

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Gordon MacDonald

I have a couple of questions, but I want to start by asking about the annual report. I want to have this clear in my mind. Last year’s annual report was published on 17 October 2024. The publication of this year’s report is being delayed by four weeks. Is that because of internal pressure in Deloitte, or is it a problem with your own audit? What is the reason for the delay? As the convener has indicated, our role is very difficult when we do not see the latest annual report and we have to rely on something that is completely out of date.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Consumer Scotland

Meeting date: 29 October 2025

Gordon MacDonald

Okay. Deloitte’s 2023-24 report on Consumer Scotland highlighted that the organisation had not developed a long-term plan covering five to 10 years ahead, and that you were to have that ready by quarter 4 of 2024-25. Will you update us on where you are on that?