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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 17 December 2025
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Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Legal Mechanism for any Independence Referendum

Meeting date: 27 November 2025

Neil Bibby

Good morning. Mr Brown mentioned earlier the political consequences for the UK. I want to ask about political consequences for the UK Government and for the Scottish Government—or for the party that leads the Scottish Government. Whether there are consequences may be questionable, as Professor McEwen says in her written submission that only one in five Scots rank the constitution in their top three priorities.

To what extent are we seeing or will we see political consequences for the SNP? Since 2016, we have seen the Scottish Government and First Ministers and leaders of the SNP not saying, “We want a referendum,” but going so far as to say, “There is going to be a referendum; we will have a referendum,” and that has not materialised. To what extent has that undermined trust and support for the case that the governing party will call a referendum? There have been attempts to lead supporters up the hill, only for them to be disappointed in the statements that have been made by leading members of the nationalist movement.

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Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Legal Mechanism for any Independence Referendum

Meeting date: 27 November 2025

Neil Bibby

I think that, to some extent, those in the nationalist movement are using things such as these inquiries as a distraction from building the case for independence, to be perfectly honest. John Swinney has said again that he will get a majority and will deliver independence, which is similar to what he has said in the past. I do not think that the SNP will get a majority at the next election, so I do not think that we will cross that bridge, but John Swinney has said he has got a “secret plan” to deliver independence after the referendum. I do not think that he has any plan, but I am happy to open it up to the panel if they want to tell me what they think John Swinney’s secret plan is.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Legal Mechanism for any Independence Referendum

Meeting date: 27 November 2025

Neil Bibby

Sure. I think that he does not have one.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Legal Mechanism for any Independence Referendum

Meeting date: 27 November 2025

Neil Bibby

Yes. Thank you.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Legal Mechanism for any Independence Referendum

Meeting date: 27 November 2025

Neil Bibby

That was a speech.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Legal Mechanism for any Independence Referendum

Meeting date: 27 November 2025

Neil Bibby

To some extent, the SNP’s domestic record on public services is probably the main reason why we have seen support for the SNP dip over recent years, but there is a sense that, to maintain itself in power, the SNP needs to dangle the independence referendum carrot. So far we have had, for example, John Swinney saying that, at the next election, an SNP majority will deliver another independence referendum. He has even excluded the Scottish Greens from that mandate; it is purely the SNP now. To what extent are there political consequences for the SNP in looking like it wants to preserve itself in power, rather than push the case for independence?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Legal Mechanism for any Independence Referendum

Meeting date: 27 November 2025

Neil Bibby

Does anyone else on the panel have any idea of what that secret plan could possibly be?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Legal Mechanism for any Independence Referendum

Meeting date: 27 November 2025

Neil Bibby

I assume that you will agree that the European Union referendum showed that people need to know exactly what they are voting for. There were issues post the EU referendum and protracted discussions and negotiations about what that meant in practice. What do other panel members think of that?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Transparency of Intergovernmental Activity

Meeting date: 20 November 2025

Neil Bibby

Thank you. That is a fair point. I do not know whether Rachel Minto wants to say anything about resources.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]

Transparency of Intergovernmental Activity

Meeting date: 20 November 2025

Neil Bibby

Thank you.