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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 2 May 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Colleges Regionalisation Inquiry

Meeting date: 1 June 2022

Willie Rennie

I have just changed the question that I was going to ask. I will come back to my original question in a moment, but I am intrigued by what Nora Senior has just said. What does that flexing mean? Why is it not happening already?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Colleges Regionalisation Inquiry

Meeting date: 1 June 2022

Willie Rennie

I am sorry to dig further into that, but I am intrigued. All of that sounds very sensible, and I am wondering why it has not happened already.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Early Learning and Childcare: 1,140 Hours

Meeting date: 25 May 2022

Willie Rennie

Is there any effect due to the lack of universality—as in, universal in every community across the country—of the offer? From what I have observed, the provision for two-year-olds is not available in every community; some people have to travel to get it. Does that have an effect?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Early Learning and Childcare: 1,140 Hours

Meeting date: 25 May 2022

Willie Rennie

The real living wage will not stop an exodus.

We know that nurseries are reducing the number of rooms that are available for the service; many are closing; and lots of staff are moving over, so they are really struggling to provide the service. The issue is important, and it is not about “Private good, public bad”—it is about private and voluntary nurseries providing a much more flexible service, which is what the First Minister said was important.

We will all remember the debate that we had on the issue four or five years ago, because a lot of parents spoke out at the time, saying that they needed flexibility to fit care around their work patterns. We are therefore in danger of undermining the objective that the First Minister set out all those years ago by cutting out the private sector and treating people in it as second class citizens. I find it staggering that we have got to this stage.

11:15  

I commend you for being the first person from whom I have heard such an open explanation, because things have been very opaque up to now. We have now had an open and transparent admission that the system is designed to pay those in the council sector much more than those in the private and voluntary sectors. The situation is not sustainable—we are going to undermine the policy if we carry on as we are.

I am not blaming you for all this, Matthew—you have been sent out to defend it—but it is just not sustainable.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Early Learning and Childcare: 1,140 Hours

Meeting date: 25 May 2022

Willie Rennie

Why are we so bad at getting entitled two-year-olds into the provision? Perhaps Adam Hall could answer that first.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Early Learning and Childcare: 1,140 Hours

Meeting date: 25 May 2022

Willie Rennie

Surely the clue is in the title of your organisation. If we are going to improve things, we should understand the reasons. Is no attempt being made to understand them?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Early Learning and Childcare: 1,140 Hours

Meeting date: 25 May 2022

Willie Rennie

I have one final question. Why is it that some councils do not offer a higher rate for provision of the service for two-year-olds when it is clear that the ratios require more staff and the demands on additional support will be greater than those for the mainstream three and four-year-old offer? Why are some councils not providing a higher rate?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Early Learning and Childcare: 1,140 Hours

Meeting date: 25 May 2022

Willie Rennie

City of Edinburgh Council provides a flat rate across all the different age ranges, but I think that the demands from two-year-olds would be higher. Could I ask you to have a look at that and perhaps follow up with any correspondence that you receive on it?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Early Learning and Childcare: 1,140 Hours

Meeting date: 25 May 2022

Willie Rennie

Does anybody else have any ideas?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Early Learning and Childcare: 1,140 Hours

Meeting date: 25 May 2022

Willie Rennie

We are not really getting to the nub of this. In 2010, there were 1,500 nursery teachers and there are now only 700. Does that not give an indication that we have moved from education to just childcare? That question is for Matthew Sweeney.