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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 25 October 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Willie Rennie

You have heard Mr Yeates say several times that the transition cost is £30 million, which is much more than what the Government is saying the cost is. Why have you not challenged that figure? Do you agree with the £30 million?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Willie Rennie

I admire your certainty but, as you might imagine, we have doubts. We have differing reports from various people whom we respect because we have dealt with them in other spheres, and they all say broadly similar things. However, you are certain that you are fine.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Willie Rennie

What I hear from some employers and other people is that you are quite a difficult organisation to deal with.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Willie Rennie

You do not accept any of the quotations that I have read out.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Willie Rennie

Publish the stuff that you have told ministers.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Willie Rennie

Do not worry; that is fine.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Willie Rennie

Frankly, our concern is that the system is not responding to the crisis, and not just in Dundee, because Dundee is not a one-off. I think that it has been subtly acknowledged that there is a wider problem with the sector, and our concern is that you are not helping to expose that wider problem by having a public debate. Your having had that private discussion with ministers means not only that the report will be months delayed, but that we are not able to have that urgent debate about the future of our universities, which are under extreme stress.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Willie Rennie

That has not come up with your members?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Willie Rennie

Nigel, you are not responsible for the Funding Council, but you have a significant background in and significant knowledge of that sector. With the fire that is going on in higher and further education funding—I am referring to the likes of the situation at the University of Dundee—do you think the SFC has the headspace to be able to do this?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Willie Rennie

You would have thought that the people who are in charge of the organisation—the decision makers; in other words, the critical people who consider such things—might be slightly distracted by such a big change.