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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 24 October 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Willie Rennie

Andrew or Sai, do you have anything to contribute?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Willie Rennie

I have a quick question to follow up on that. Jon Vincent, you have given evidence about the disparity in funding between colleges and universities. If all the apprenticeship funding is put into the new funding model, does that not lead us to believe that exactly the same thing will happen—that the boundaries between the different budget headings will not change and all that will happen is the lift and shift that Paul Grice was talking about? Is that not an indication that this is perhaps a fruitless exercise?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Willie Rennie

Let me try to summarise. Andrew Ritchie, you are sceptical. Sir Paul and Jon Vincent, you are passionate about reform, but you are a little bit underwhelmed by the structural change. Is that a fair representation?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Willie Rennie

That is fine. To be clear, I am just presenting evidence. I am not criticising SDS; I am just presenting the reports that are out there. There are two substantial reports and there has been lots of other commentary, so the evidence is not insignificant.

Thank you very much for your answers.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Willie Rennie

What are your reflections, Phiona? Do you recognise that lack of leadership?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Willie Rennie

You will be familiar with the Withers report and perhaps also with the Audit Scotland report from a few years ago, which was quite critical of the skills landscape and the lack of leadership within it. The Withers report was also quite critical, saying that there were

“competing narratives and approaches and duplication ... lack of clarity ... lack of leadership and effective governance”,

and that the landscape reflects the

“harmful, false division that fuels its persistence”,

which is a reference to the persistence of divisions between the various parts of the system.

Do you recognise any of that? In your work, do you see any of those elements?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Willie Rennie

Why do you think that there needs to be a change?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Willie Rennie

Bluntly, do you think that the SFC can cope with the proposed changes, given everything else that is going on?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 13 May 2025

Willie Rennie

Does the modelling for the member’s proposals include the effect on investment in the sector? Does she understand what they would do to house construction?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 13 May 2025

Willie Rennie

What you have said about the purpose built student accommodation and the wider approach is welcome. We have learned that we cannot tackle the housing emergency on our own, just using the public sector; we need the private sector and private investors to be included. We are not talking only about specific proposals, but about the rhetoric that we use. Using language such as “exploitative” in relation to landlords in a generalised way does not help to provide confidence to those who are seeking to invest. On that front, I have seen a change of direction from the Government, and we now have a much more inclusive approach to tackling the housing emergency.