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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 23 October 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Willie Rennie

You said earlier that you cannot speak to motive, that you were provided with the information that you were provided with, that there seemed to be a lack of an inquisitive mind, and that you accepted members of the executive team being removed from the court without questioning the reason why. Simply, it seems that a very passive approach was being taken to such a big organisation. What business experience have you had? Did you have financial experience before you took on this role?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Willie Rennie

I think that people will be surprised by that, given that we are talking about such an important role in such a big university, which, as you have said, contributes significantly—£300 million—to the economy of Tayside. Do you regret applying to be the chair of court?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Willie Rennie

Do you not?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Willie Rennie

You were not aware—okay. Dr McGeorge?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Willie Rennie

You were quite content to run down the cash reserves when it was known in the sector that you needed to maintain decent cash reserves and at a time when there were significant warnings from the wider universities landscape.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Willie Rennie

What would you have done if he had not gone? Would you have escalated it? Was it in your mind that you had a plan for him to leave, whether he agreed or not? Was that your intention?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Willie Rennie

I have one more question about the joint role of chief operating officer and secretary to the court. Do you think that it was a conflict of interest for one person to hold both roles?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Willie Rennie

But should it not have been news to you? If you were not getting the answers that you needed to get, was there no inquiring mind asking why? That is what we have courts for.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Willie Rennie

Were you both aware that a breach of the covenant, whether tested or not, is an event that is reportable to the Funding Council?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

University of Dundee

Meeting date: 25 June 2025

Willie Rennie

We might come back to the banking covenant topic, but I want to move on to the issue of cash management. There were cash reserves of around £100 million in January 2023. They dropped to £32 million in July 2024 and the university was forecast to be overdrawn by £1 million by July 2025. Did the fact that the cash reserves were falling so quickly alarm either of you?