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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 30 June 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Colleges (Financial Sustainability)

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Willie Rennie

If the rest of the panel will forgive me, I want to direct my questions to Professor Powell and SRUC. I have a particular constituency interest and I am also interested in the wider organisation. Professor Powell, can you set out the level of deficit for the institution and why it has increased particularly over the past year?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Colleges (Financial Sustainability)

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Willie Rennie

You are not subject to the same headwinds as a lot of universities, which I presume is because of the footprint that other institutions have in the international student market. I am keen to understand why you have been affected to such a great extent when you have not faced the volatility of the international student market.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Colleges (Financial Sustainability)

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Willie Rennie

The institution has existed since about 2012 or 2013.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Colleges (Financial Sustainability)

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Willie Rennie

Why does the SRUC have such a large footprint when it has existed for only 13 years or so? Why is the cost base still such a pressure on the organisation?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Colleges (Financial Sustainability)

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Willie Rennie

Good. To put the rest of the committee in the picture, in 2016, Fife College moved out of the main campus building. I think that that was a reckless decision, and it had a direct impact on your organisation. That happened in 2016 and the building has been half empty from then until today. You have now decided to close the building and you have told us that it cost £1.2 million a year to run it. Why has it taken so long to make a decision about the building when it was so expensive and had a detrimental impact on your finances?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Colleges (Financial Sustainability)

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Willie Rennie

Thank you for answering my questions.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Colleges (Financial Sustainability)

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Willie Rennie

I do not want to push the tolerance of the committee, but I will raise one other issue. The staff feel that you are more interested in higher education than you are in further education. I personally have seen that you were most animated when you talked about the new veterinary courses—the disruptive model that you spoke of earlier—and the degree-awarding powers that you have recently secured; congratulations on securing those. However, those who are delivering FE courses feel left behind. They do not feel that you care as much or are as passionate about FE. They think that there is just not the same passion from you about that, particularly in Cupar, where we have the home of golf on our doorstep and a very strong agricultural sector. They think that they are feeling the effects of that, with you investing £12 million in the veterinary facilities in Inverness, £2 million in the King’s buildings that are at the heart of the University of Edinburgh and significant sums of money in Craibstone, while the FE side just feels left behind. Tell me why they—and I—are wrong.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Colleges (Financial Sustainability)

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Willie Rennie

What I get from you is that the diverse estate and large number of buildings are large reasons why you have such a significant deficit.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Colleges (Financial Sustainability)

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Willie Rennie

It does not feel like that in Cupar with the Elmwood campus.

11:15  

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Colleges (Financial Sustainability)

Meeting date: 18 June 2025

Willie Rennie

The campus is a shadow of what it used to be. At its peak, we had about 2,000 students at Elmwood. There are now just a few hundred and many of the courses are run online, so a physical presence is not required in Cupar. For the staff and students in Cupar, it feels like a shadow of what it used to be, and they do not have confidence that the organisation has a positive vision for the future. From the beginning, we have been asking for clarity and a positive vision for what is next, but I think that there has just been drift. Over time, there has been a series of cuts, the farm was sold and attempts were made to sell the golf course. As a result of the indecision, the student accommodation has had to close because of its poor condition and that of the main building, and we are shrinking into the old Elmwood house, which is a tight space. That does not inspire locals, students or staff. I invite you to convince us at last that you are going to stay in Cupar with a positive vision for the future and that you will potentially look to grow opportunities. Cupar is a major agricultural centre, St Andrews is a centre for golf and there are many animal-based businesses in the community, yet there has just been a drift in the strategy and cuts.