Chamber and committees

Does anyone else have anything that they wish to add?

As no one else has anything to add, I will move to my second set of questions, which are on the issuing of positive directions following inquiry work.

This morning, we have picked up on the fact that burdens are a real part of what we need to look at—that is important. Vicki Cahill touched on the role of supporting and providing guidance, rather than policing.

Do the witnesses think that it is appropriate for OSCR to be able to issue positive directions following inquiry work? I am not sure of the range of charities that Shona NicIllinein’s organisation supports, but do the witnesses believe that it is appropriate for designated religious charities to be exempt from that provision?

That is helpful. We want to hear the views of smaller designated religious charities on what would happen if they were involved.

The requirement for charities to have a connection to Scotland is now included in the bill. Do the witnesses consider that to be an appropriate measure? Are there any concerns about that?

I asked the first panel of witnesses a question on giving OSCR powers to appoint interim trustees in specific circumstances where there are no trustees to be found or where trustees are not willing to act. Have the witnesses had any experience of that? Would it be a helpful measure in an emergency situation to support and stabilise a charity?

As nobody has a comment on that, perhaps we need to do more digging into where the idea has come from.

On maintaining a register of charity mergers to make it easier for legacies to be transferred in situations where the original legacy was made to a charity that has since merged and changed its name, do the witnesses have any concerns, or is it a tidying-up measure, as we heard earlier?

Is there anything around the legacy issue that we have not captured and that could be improved, or is it straightforward enough? Increasingly, charities look at charitable legacy giving, which might become a greater issue in the future with the impact of the bill and there potentially being fewer charities.

Thank you.

I have been contacted by constituents who are currently unable to secure a remortgage because they live in such properties. Those individuals are complaining of radio silence from the Government on the issue, and a lack of urgency and leadership. What advice is being provided to individual householders who are trying to remortgage and who live in those 105 properties?

Across the world, Governments are meeting, as we are today, to discuss and approve budgets. I was disappointed that the minister did not touch on what has destabilised the whole process, which is President Putin’s illegal invasion of Ukraine. Ministers across the Scottish Government need to start recognising that and including it in their considerations of where we are. It is not just Brexit or Covid-19 but illegal war that is having a real impact on driving up prices and the inflation rate.

I thank all those who work in our local authorities across Scotland for their hard work and commitment to our communities, especially during the Covid-19 pandemic. I also thank them for the work that they are undertaking to deliver recovery for our communities—that is something that we should very much recognise. The work that my council in Edinburgh and the council in Glasgow are doing to support Ukrainians and Ukrainian families in Scotland is tremendous. My council has highlighted to ministers pressures around education and housing support that have not been addressed in the budget. We need to make sure that ministers recognise councils’ lasting and on-going support.

The order before us allocates funding for each of Scotland’s 32 local authorities. We do not intend to oppose it, but we continue to raise serious concerns about the overall allocation of resources to local authorities across Scotland and the need for reform of how they are delivered. Council finance chiefs have warned Scottish National Party and Green ministers that Scotland’s local authorities are now facing unprecedented financial pressures. Let us not forget that the Scottish Government’s budget is the largest in devolution history, thanks to additional UK Government funding being allocated during and after the budget process.

The exercise of tracking funding allocations over the past decade points to SNP ministers not passing on to local government the additional resources that they have received. I hope to highlight that today, because, although we have this debate annually, we are not finding the solutions that local government needs. Councils have been left having to find savings and cut local services at the same time. This year, we are witnessing councils taking those difficult decisions and coming together, through COSLA, to condemn, again, their financial settlement.

It is clear that we need a new approach and a new conversation about how we take forward the budget process. The acting finance secretary, John Swinney, in his speech in last week’s stage 3 budget debate, said that the Scottish Government wants a new deal with local government. I agree that there should be a new deal, but it should not be set by just the Scottish Government; the Parliament and all local authorities should be part of the conversation. Ministers need to consider how finances will be properly delivered in the future. I hope that SNP and Green ministers are genuinely able, following this year’s budget process, to pause and reflect on the difficulties that councils say that a similar budget would present them with in the future.

We need the financial relationship between the Scottish Government and local government to be reset. We need a new partnership to be developed that accords respect to our local authorities and gives them the powers and funding that they need to deliver the vital public services on which we all rely.

The minister pointed towards a potential additional tax, which I think that only two councils are considering taking forward.

Wider discussion of local government reform is needed. We need a new fiscal framework for councils, and we need the powers that local authorities currently have to be respected. In that regard, debates about, for example, the national care service, also need to consider reform. To date there has been little scope for reform or discussion of reform, but I hope that an opportunity for that will be presented outside this budget process. Our having a new First Minister, a new finance secretary and new local government ministers will present an opportunity to build a new relationship and have positive discussions about a new funding settlement. Currently, there seems to be a stalemate when it comes to opening up discussions about that important issue, but reform is critical if we are to protect and enhance our local councils and communities.

I do not doubt that councils will continue to face difficult decisions in the coming weeks, months and years. From meeting and speaking to councillors across Scotland, not just from my party but from all parties, I cannot see where councils can find flexibility. In many areas, they have used the sticking plasters that they had to get this budget across the line; there is nothing else for them to cut without resorting to delivering core services and nothing else.

I hope that we can consider that backdrop and the financial pressures, which we all recognise, ahead of next year’s budget. I hope that SNP and Green ministers will reset their approach to how local councils are funded and to the local priorities of each local authority, whether it is rural or urban. I hope that all members of this Parliament will play a role in that. More important, we must ensure that our local authorities are able to deliver for our local communities.

I hope that the minister will reflect on her performance today, because the fact is that more than 80 per cent of companies have not signed up to her scheme. I have met many of them—they include our constituents here, in Lothian, who have been desperate to get meetings with the minister but have been ignored. They are small businesses. They are people who are having sleepless nights over the scheme, and they are people who believe that it could drive their business to the wall. Therefore, will the minister reflect on that, and will she also apologise to those businesses?

Will the member take an intervention?