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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 21 February 2023
Edward Mountain
On the emissions, do you also think there is a problem with reliability when a ferry gets to that age?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 21 February 2023
Edward Mountain
Thank you very much. That has been an extraordinarily helpful session for us as part of our inquiry. Thank you very much for giving your time generously to us this morning to help widen our knowledge about ferries and how other countries are dealing with the issues that we are facing in Scotland.
I will suspend the meeting briefly and we will reconvene at 11 o’clock.
10:49 Meeting suspended.Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 21 February 2023
Edward Mountain
Thank you. We are now going to hear from our second panel as part of our inquiry into a modern and sustainable ferry service for Scotland. Joining us to offer their views on the future of ferry provision in Scotland and to discuss their current activities we have ferry operators who provide Government-subsidised services: CalMac Ferries and NorthLink Ferries.
I am delighted to welcome Robbie Drummond, chief executive of CalMac; Stuart Garrett, the managing director of NorthLink Ferries; Kris Bevan, the freight manager of NorthLink Ferries; and Jim Dow, the commercial director of NorthLink Ferries. Thank you all for accepting our invitation and for sending us some useful information in advance. Some of it arrived in response to a letter that was sent just last week, so I am especially grateful to Robbie Drummond for turning that around so quickly. It is helpful to the committee.
The deputy convener, Fiona Hyslop, will lead off.
Meeting of the Parliament
Meeting date: 9 February 2023
Edward Mountain
Will the member give way on that point?
Meeting of the Parliament
Meeting date: 9 February 2023
Edward Mountain
It is always nice to acknowledge that you have made mistakes. Do you want to address the ferries and the costs of that? Do you want to address the A9—
Meeting of the Parliament
Meeting date: 9 February 2023
Edward Mountain
I will give way to the member when I am a little further on.
I accept that there is more to do, which is why I believe that we need to drive down inflation to half of its current rate, grow the economy, reduce national debt and build our public services, which is something that we should all be concentrating on.
Meeting of the Parliament
Meeting date: 9 February 2023
Edward Mountain
I will take the member’s intervention in a moment.
To my mind, that would not come about with independence, where we would be building walls that would cut off 60 per cent of our market.
The member has suggested that we need to build a new Scotland. In the papers that made the case for independence, if they were going to be anything other than fantasy economics, I wanted to see a discussion about who would pay for pensions, what the currency would be and what the border barriers would be. We did not have that. Indeed, we know that we are not even doing some of the things that we said that we would do in those papers, such as handling benefits payments. We have asked the UK Government to continue to manage that, because the Scottish Government could not.
One of the things that we are not clear about is the cost of independence. In 2014, it was put down as £200 million, yet we are probably talking about billions and billions of pounds, because we know that £200 million does not go far—it does not even build two ferries.
Meeting of the Parliament
Meeting date: 9 February 2023
Edward Mountain
If the member will take an intervention—
Meeting of the Parliament
Meeting date: 9 February 2023
Edward Mountain
Presiding Officer, I say, through the chair, that the decision about Brexit was taken in a referendum. That decision was made by a majority vote and we should therefore respect the result. It is not something that I campaigned for, but it is not something that the Scottish Government really campaigned against: it actually spent more money campaigning in Orkney than it did on campaigning against Brexit. That is a fact.
Let us look at some of the things that we could do better. I think that I am running out of time, Presiding Officer, as I have taken some interventions.
Meeting of the Parliament
Meeting date: 9 February 2023
Edward Mountain
Sorry.
Would the member like to address the issue with the ferries? Would she like to address the issues with the A9 and the A96? I would love to hear about her Government’s failures.