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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 28 February 2023
Edward Mountain
I welcome Jenny Gilruth, Minister for Transport—thank you for joining us, minister. I also welcome from Transport Scotland Laurence Kenney, head of ferries policy, and Chris Wilcock, head of ferries unit.
Before we begin, I believe that the minister would like to make a brief opening statement.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 28 February 2023
Edward Mountain
Thank you, minister. I have a quick question to start us off. The most recent ferries plan is more than 10 years old, and it has taken 10 years to come up with a new plan, which we have not yet had sight of. Are you happy that 10 years is the right period for a plan to exist, or should it have been reviewed earlier? What lessons should we take from the whole process?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 28 February 2023
Edward Mountain
Perhaps they could comment on the fact that we heard in evidence last week from one of our Norwegian witnesses that the ferry fleet that we have in Scotland would not be in a position to tender for routes in Norway.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 28 February 2023
Edward Mountain
Okay. Perfect. We will definitely come back to you.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 28 February 2023
Edward Mountain
This is your last question, Monica. You have pushed the envelope with your questioning, and I have to bring in other committee members.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 28 February 2023
Edward Mountain
Perfect. Thank you. As there are no more questions, I move to the next item on the agenda, which is formal consideration of motion S6M-07689. I invite the minister to move the motion.
Motion moved,
That the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee recommends that the National Bus Travel Concession Schemes (Miscellaneous Amendments) (Scotland) Order 2023 [draft] be approved.—[Jenny Gilruth]
Motion agreed to.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 28 February 2023
Edward Mountain
Thank you, cabinet secretary. I have a quick question before I open up to questions from members. You said that the need for the amendment has come about because of suppliers defaulting. Could you explain how that happens and what sort of level it is at?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 28 February 2023
Edward Mountain
That is probably a good place to leave it.
We thank you and your officials very much for giving evidence, minister. I will briefly suspend the meeting to allow for a change of witnesses.
12:02 Meeting suspended.Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 28 February 2023
Edward Mountain
Just to remind you, under “Decision-making structure”, about which the report makes recommendations, it talks about
“a cluttered decision-making landscape that lacks transparency ... varying degrees of failure”
and
“CMAL ... and Transport Scotland”
failing
“to discharge their respective responsibilities competently and effectively.”
That is fairly damning.
I want to find out whether you are comfortable with the process. Let me see whether I can do this by interpreting the jargon. The end user—the passenger—feeds into the service provider, which is the ferry operator, which feeds into the asset provider, which is CMAL, which feeds into the Government through Transport Scotland: you have told us that the two are the same. Transport Scotland feeds back to CMAL, which then stipulates what the ferry contract is going to be, as far as building the ship is concerned.
That is hardly working together. Are you comfortable with that process?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 28 February 2023
Edward Mountain
We will go back to Monica Lennon for another question.