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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 22 September 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Edward Mountain

The question is, that amendment 128A be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Members: No.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Edward Mountain

What did I say?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Edward Mountain

Oh—my mistake. Amendment 128 is not agreed to.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Edward Mountain

Amendment 128A is not agreed to. Gosh, it is getting too late in the day. We have been at this for four and a half hours. Forgive me.

Amendment 128A disagreed to.

Amendment 128 agreed to.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Edward Mountain

There will be a division.

For

Lumsden, Douglas (North East Scotland) (Con)
Mountain, Edward (Highlands and Islands) (Con)

Against

Doris, Bob (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP)
Lennon, Monica (Central Scotland) (Lab)
Matheson, Michael (Falkirk West) (SNP)
Ruskell, Mark (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green)
Stewart, Kevin (Aberdeen Central) (SNP)

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Edward Mountain

The result of the division is: For 2, Against 5, Abstentions 0.

Amendment 136 disagreed to.

Section 3—Modifications in connection with section 2

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Edward Mountain

It would be helpful if you could speak to your amendments and the rest of the amendments in the group, and then speak purely to Mercedes Villalba’s amendment when I call it later.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Edward Mountain

I am struggling with that as well, because larger businesses that have holdings that could justify a fine of £40,000 would not be worried about such a fine per se; they might be more worried about the reputational damage that it would cause them, should it become clear that they have not drawn up a land management plan.

Having listened to this morning’s arguments, I intend to try to work with the cabinet secretary and Mr Doris to see whether a more reasonable figure or a guidance figure could be agreed to get to that £40,000 over a structured period of time. I do not anticipate that many people will be in that situation. I really hope that, once the legislation is in place, people will work towards land management plans if they are agreed, which would preclude the need for land reform every 10 years.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Edward Mountain

There will be a division. [Interruption.] There is some confusion about the result, so I will run that division again, to make sure that we have got it right. Just to be entirely sure, we are on amendment 326.

For

Lennon, Monica (Central Scotland) (Lab)
Lumsden, Douglas (North East Scotland) (Con)
Mountain, Edward (Highlands and Islands) (Con)
Ruskell, Mark (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green)

Against

Doris, Bob (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP)
Matheson, Michael (Falkirk West) (SNP)
Stewart, Kevin (Aberdeen Central) (SNP)

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 10 June 2025

Edward Mountain

The result of the division is: For 4, Against 3, Abstentions 0.

Amendment 326 agreed to.

10:00  

Amendment 327 not moved.

Amendment 328 moved—[Rhoda Grant].