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Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 14 December 2022
Edward Mountain
I think that you are getting confused between hunting and flushing. We are talking about using dogs to flush; we are not talking about hunting. You are giving the illusion that that would take place over miles of countryside. That is not what we are talking about. We are talking about putting dogs into cover to flush out a mammal so that it can be controlled. As Mr Fairlie has made positively clear, in thick cover in perhaps a 200-acre wood, people will probably need to consider replacing a dog as they are trying to flush out a mammal. I think that Mr Smyth is presenting an illusion that misrepresents the bill and what the minister is trying to achieve. However, I am sure that the minister does not need my support to clarify her position.
10:00Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 14 December 2022
Edward Mountain
I am disappointed that the minister has not considered amendment 69, on the basis that she perceives that it would create a loophole. The amendment aims to achieve a more reasonable approach, based on lived experience of more than 45 years of wildlife and countryside management. Therefore, I am disappointed that she believes that people would use it as an excuse. The legislation is new, and my amendment seeks to make it clear that people would have to aim to shoot an animal dead rather than shoot it dead. It is not always possible to achieve that, which I can say from long experience.
I will make another point about Rachael Hamilton’s amendments that address the most humane way of dispatching a mammal. I am sure that the minister is aware of the practice of mist netting, which is used to remove rabbits in the wild. Do you understand mist netting, minister, or do I need to explain it?
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 14 December 2022
Edward Mountain
It is that polecat issue again, convener, so I will not move amendment 87.
Amendment 87 not moved.
Amendment 88 moved—[Edward Mountain].
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 14 December 2022
Edward Mountain
I will not move the amendment because I did not understand the minister’s answer.
Amendment 105 not moved.
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 14 December 2022
Edward Mountain
To help the committee, I will not move those amendments.
Amendments 93 to 96 not moved.
Amendment 167 moved—[Jenni Minto].
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 13 December 2022
Edward Mountain
Good morning and welcome to the 33rd meeting in 2022 of the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee.
Our first agenda item is a decision on taking items 2, 3 and 4 in private. Item 2 is consideration of correspondence regarding the joint budget review as it relates to climate change; item 3 is consideration of a draft report on the legislative consent memorandum on the Levelling-up and Regeneration Bill; and item 4 is consideration of a draft report on the committee’s inquiry into the role of local government and its cross-sectoral partners in financing and delivering a net zero Scotland.
Does the committee agree to take those agenda items in private?
Members indicated agreement.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 13 December 2022
Edward Mountain
That concludes the public part of our meeting. We now go into private session.
09:32 Meeting continued in private until 12:36.
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 7 December 2022
Edward Mountain
I get confused when we talk about this issue and mix up species.
Currently, deer control is carried out by Forestry and Land Scotland. NatureScot is issuing licences to all seven regions of Forestry and Land Scotland for the out-of-season control of deer. That means the shooting of females that have dependent young, without necessarily ensuring that the dependent young are controlled. It seems that you are mixing up the two. It concerns me that you are looking for a stronger licensing procedure on this issue, whereas you will then promote the shooting of deer that have fawns at foot without killing the fawns. I have a problem with that. Can you justify it to me?
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 7 December 2022
Edward Mountain
Sorry—it is just that mink are not just an important problem on islands, where they are definitely an invasive species; they also cause problems on the mainland, where they are also invasive. Consequently, many of the riverine courses on the mainland have trees and roots underneath which the mink hide. If you are trying to track down a mink and remove it, it often helps to have a terrier working through the roots, which, technically, according to the definition, could be taken to be under ground. However, I believe that in doing so you would be legitimately trying to carry out a policy that the Government is trying to support. Although the use of dogs might not be important on the islands, it is important on the mainland.
The deputy convener might be able to help on this point, but I think that when stoats—or perhaps it was weasels; I always get the two confused—were on Orkney, people originally used terriers to track them down and sent down tracking dogs to find out exactly which holes they were hiding in, so that they got the right ones in subsequent trapping. I think that I am right in saying that that was the practice for stoats, but I am sure that the deputy convener will correct me if I have got that wrong.
Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee
Meeting date: 7 December 2022
Edward Mountain
Will the member take an intervention?