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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 17 January 2023
Edward Mountain
Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the second meeting in 2023 of the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee.
Agenda item 1 is a decision on whether to take item 3 in private. Item 3 is consideration of the evidence that we will hear today as part of our scrutiny of the Scottish Government’s budget for 2023-24. Do members agree to take that item in private?
Members indicated agreement.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 17 January 2023
Edward Mountain
Sorry, Kerry; I did not hear that because your microphone did not come on.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 17 January 2023
Edward Mountain
Do not worry: the gentleman from broadcasting will push the button. I just missed it. I am slightly deaf, so it would help if you could repeat what you said.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 17 January 2023
Edward Mountain
It may be a pilot, but it will cost £15 million—that is the estimate that we have been given. Is that within the budget of £1.4 billion?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 17 January 2023
Edward Mountain
I am looking round the table to see whether anyone has any other questions. As no one does, I will ask a couple of questions. I remind the committee that I have an interest in land and in a farming partnership, because my first question relates to trees and therefore to land use.
Cabinet secretary, you said in your opening statement that you are looking to increase the amount of area that is planted. Will you explain how your figures will achieve that, please?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 17 January 2023
Edward Mountain
Sorry, Simon, but you have now confused me. My understanding is that £102.3 million was set aside for Scottish Forestry and £23.7 million was set aside for Forestry and Land Scotland, bringing a total of £126 million into that area. Is that what you have just said?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 17 January 2023
Edward Mountain
I do not see that figure in the budget. You are saying—all in one breath—that you will bear the cost for the loss of income out of the existing budget, yet you are not showing the income from tickets in the budget.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 17 January 2023
Edward Mountain
You are confident about that. Perhaps I will need to look back at those figures, as I cannot find where the £184 million in ticket revenue goes. You seem to be saying that it has been offset in the budget.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 17 January 2023
Edward Mountain
I take the point that there is no point in running empty services, but if there are fewer services then railways are less crowded, so there is more chance that the PPM will be met. My question is, are you reaching a satisfactory PPM with the budget that you have?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 17 January 2023
Edward Mountain
Thank you. I will leave it there. As there are no other questions from members, I thank you all for taking part in today’s session. That concludes the public part of our meeting.
11:23 Meeting continued in private until 11:51.