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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 9 December 2025
Edward Mountain
I am looking for other opportunities to save money because I do not know what it costs to audit those accounts. Perhaps Lee Shedden knows.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 9 December 2025
Edward Mountain
Thank you. I raised most of the points that I wanted to raise during the previous item. They were about the savings that will be accrued and what the costs will be to the Auditor General. I was slightly wary about whether he will have sufficient funds and resources to cover the additional work, but it sounds as if he has already negotiated those with you, cabinet secretary.
Does anyone wish to raise any points?
Members: No.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 9 December 2025
Edward Mountain
Thank you. The question is, that motion S6M-20027, in the name of the cabinet secretary, be approved.
Motion agreed to,
That the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee recommends that the Companies Act 2006 (Scottish public sector companies to be audited by the Auditor General for Scotland) Order 2026 [draft] be approved.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 9 December 2025
Edward Mountain
Welcome back. Agenda item 4 is consideration of the legislative consent memorandum on the Biodiversity Beyond National Jurisdiction Bill. The bill was introduced to the House of Commons on 10 September and the Scottish Government lodged the LCM on 25 September. The bill will enable the UK to implement the biodiversity beyond national jurisdiction agreement, which seeks to ensure the conservation and sustainable use of marine biological diversity of areas beyond national jurisdiction.
We have a very tight timescale for the LCM. We are told that the bill must be in force by January for the UK to meet new treaty obligations. In effect, that means that the committee must agree a report next week. We have therefore had little choice but to agree to have this evidence session this week, even though we are still waiting for a supplementary LCM to be lodged.
I welcome the Cabinet Secretary for Climate Action and Energy, Gillian Martin, and her supporting officials from the Scottish Government. Eilidh Macdonald is head of marine climate and biodiversity and Dr Joanna Dingwall is branch head lawyer. Before we move to questions, I believe that the cabinet secretary wishes to make a short opening statement.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 9 December 2025
Edward Mountain
I find it impossible to do my job as a member of this Parliament if I do not know that. We are in a position where the House of Lords committee is sitting on 16 December and we have got to report by 4 January. You have promised to keep us updated, and I will look forward to that—maybe it will be under the Christmas tree. We are not going to get this before next week, and we are going to be in recess until 4 January, so I am struggling.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 9 December 2025
Edward Mountain
The next questions come from Mark Ruskell.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 9 December 2025
Edward Mountain
I am not sure that there is an answer to my question.
Kevin Stewart wants to come in.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 9 December 2025
Edward Mountain
Mr Stewart, with respect, you have made your point, which you have got on the record. I actually do not think that it is appropriate and I am not going to allow—
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 9 December 2025
Edward Mountain
Welcome back. Our fifth item of business is an evidence session on the Ecocide (Scotland) Bill with the member in charge, Monica Lennon. I welcome Monica’s committee substitute, Sarah Boyack, to the meeting.
This will be our final evidence session before the committee reports on the bill’s general principles early in the new year. No stage 1 deadline has been set by the Parliamentary Bureau yet, but the committee has proposed a deadline of the end of January. I believe that we are close to agreeing on a timeline, and will hopefully do so this week.
I welcome to the meeting Monica Lennon MSP and her supporting officials: Roz Thomson, the principal clerk in the non-government bills unit and Ailidh Callander, a senior solicitor from the legal services office. Both are from the Scottish Parliament.
Monica, as is often the way, I will start with some easy questions, but before I do, you get to make an opening statement.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 9 December 2025
Edward Mountain
I always feel that I am in the hot seat when we get short of time, but the clock never stops, so short answers and short questions will help me. However, I do not want to stifle debate, especially on a member’s bill that that has been introduced by a member of this committee.