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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 19 September 2023
Edward Mountain
That is quite a comment to make, and I will check whether the committee was reticent in delaying its response. I do not believe that it was, and I will certainly not accept that. I will park that issue, because I am happy to have that conversation with the cabinet secretary offline.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 19 September 2023
Edward Mountain
It is probably fair to say—and it is not surprising—that the committee has requested a debate on ferries and the report that we produced. We have not been given a date yet but, when we have one, I am sure that you will be able to give us complete answers to all the questions.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 19 September 2023
Edward Mountain
Okay. Thank you very much, cabinet secretary. It has been a fairly full session. I am just looking around to make sure that I have not missed any member who wants to come in with another question. I think that that is it.
I will suspend the meeting briefly, but before I do so I remind you that the committee will be writing to the Government with our pre-budget observations later in the autumn.
10:16 Meeting suspended.Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 19 September 2023
Edward Mountain
We move to questions from Mark Ruskell.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 19 September 2023
Edward Mountain
I think that I am correct in saying that the Transport (Scotland) Act 2019 states that it has to be done by local councils, not by central Government. That is what Parliament agreed to in the previous parliamentary session.
Jackie, you wanted to come in.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 19 September 2023
Edward Mountain
Okay.
As for the rearrangement of the structure involving Transport Scotland, CalMac and CMAL, the committee’s recommendation in its report reflected the recommendation in the previous Rural Economy and Connectivity Committee’s report. Two committees have made that same point. Some people might be holding out against those changes, but it is clear that two committees in different parliamentary sessions have recommended that they be made.
Are there any other questions? Douglas, you are not coming in on the A96 again, are you?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 19 September 2023
Edward Mountain
That concludes our business in public. We now move into private session.
12:12 Meeting continued in private until 12:31.Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 19 September 2023
Edward Mountain
Good morning, and welcome to the 26th meeting in 2023 of the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee. The first item on the agenda is a decision on whether to take items 5 and 6 in private. Item 5 is consideration of evidence that we will hear under agenda item 2, and item 6 is consideration of our work programme. Do we agree to take those items in private?
Members indicated agreement.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 19 September 2023
Edward Mountain
Our next item of business is an evidence session with the Scottish Government to discuss its priorities following the change of First Minister and the associated reshuffle earlier this year. That made things more interesting—or, perhaps, more complicated—for the committee in that, instead of scrutinising the work of one Cabinet minister, we now find ourselves scrutinising the work of three.
We heard from the Cabinet Secretary for Transport, Net Zero and Just Transition in June, and we heard from the Cabinet Secretary for Wellbeing Economy, Fair Work and Energy last week. This week, we begin by hearing from the Cabinet Secretary for Rural Affairs, Land Reform and Islands, Mairi Gougeon. Welcome, cabinet secretary.
I am pleased to also welcome George Burgess, director of agriculture and rural economy, and David Signorini, interim director of environment and forestry, both from the Scottish Government.
The evidence session takes place in the run-up to preparations for the Scottish Government’s budget for 2023-24, and following confirmation earlier this month that there is to be a new land reform bill.
Cabinet secretary, I believe that you wish to make an opening statement.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 19 September 2023
Edward Mountain
Thank you, cabinet secretary. Before we go any further, I remind the committee and the cabinet secretary of my entry in the register of members’ interests, which clearly shows that I am a member of a family farming partnership and own land in Moray.
Now that that is on the record I would like to clarify something before we move to questions. When we were discussing land reform prior to the reshuffle, it fell within Màiri McAllan’s portfolio. Can you confirm to me that everything to do with land reform now falls purely within your portfolio, cabinet secretary?