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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Edward Mountain

Jackie Dunbar is next.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Edward Mountain

I want to push you a wee bit on that. You are the people who make the ferries work and deliver the services that we want, but you are not the people who specify what those ferries should look like. That is done by CMAL and Transport Scotland, as demonstrated in the construction and design of 801 and 802.

If you give somebody a tool to use and it is the wrong tool, they will never make it work. They will just say, “You have given us the wrong tool”. What I do not understand—this is what the deputy convener was asking about—is how CMAL, CalMac and Serco are all parts of a wheel, but one is driving the other and the person who is driving the other is not the person who is having to make it work. Is that a bad assumption?

11:15  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Edward Mountain

I have a few questions, if I may ask them without hogging the limelight at the end. Dag Hole, what happens when there is disruption and a ferry breaks down? Do those four companies have the ability to respond to that by moving ships around to fill in for breakdowns?

10:45  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Edward Mountain

That is very illuminating. If there is anything that either of you think that we have missed, I am happy to give you a couple of minutes to add anything before we bring this part of the meeting to a close. I do not normally do that but I think that it is important to hear your contributions today.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Edward Mountain

That is interesting. Harald Høyem, do you want to say anything?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Edward Mountain

Welcome back, everyone. I want to clarify something that I should have addressed when we were considering the statutory instrument earlier. We will have to report the outcome of the instrument in due course and I look for the committee to delegate authority to me, as convener, to finalise the report for publication. Are you all happy with that?

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Edward Mountain

Agenda item 2 is consideration of a draft statutory instrument: the draft Land Reform (Scotland) Act 2016 (Register of Persons Holding a Controlled Interest in Land) Amendment Regulations 2023.

I welcome the Minister for Environment and Land Reform, Màiri McAllan. Thank you for joining us today. I also welcome from the Scottish Government Rebecca Parry, who is a lawyer; Paul Richardson, who is senior policy adviser for land reform; and Fiona Taylor, who is head of the land use and land reform unit.

The instrument has been laid under the affirmative procedure, which means that Parliament must approve it ?before ?it ?comes ?into force. Following the evidence session, the committee will be invited, under the next agenda item, to consider a motion to approve the instrument. I remind everyone that the officials can speak under agenda item 2 but not in the following debate.

I invite the minister to make a short opening statement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Edward Mountain

Thank you very much, minister.

Before I ask my question, I remind committee members and those who are watching of my entry in the register of members’ interests. I own land and I am a tenant farmer on other land, so the issue affects me. However, my question is not about me, minister.

Churches have contacted me—I guess that you were referring to them. They were concerned about the cost, not about the matter being complex. They were concerned about the number of applications that they need to make, as each church and diocese will be different. Have you considered that and whether there is any way of ensuring that the burden on them is kept to an absolute minimum?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Edward Mountain

I think that we will leave it there, unless members have any further questions.

We move to agenda item 3, which? is formal consideration of?motion?S6M-07603. I invite the minister to speak to and move the motion.

Motion moved,

That the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee recommends that the Land Reform (Scotland) Act 2016 (Register of Persons Holding a Controlled Interest in Land) Amendment Regulations 2023 [draft] be approved.—[Màiri McAllan]

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Edward Mountain

There will be a vote by roll call.

For

Dunbar, Jackie (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP)
Hyslop, Fiona (Linlithgow) (SNP)
Kerr, Liam (North East Scotland) (Con)
Mountain, Edward (Highlands and Islands) (Con)
Regan, Ash (Edinburgh Eastern) (SNP)
Ruskell, Mark (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green)

Abstentions

Lennon, Monica (Central Scotland) (Lab)