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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 28 February 2023
Edward Mountain
The committee will therefore report the outcome of the instrument in due course. I invite members to delegate the authority to me as convener to finalise the report for publication. Are members happy to do that?
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 28 February 2023
Edward Mountain
Welcome back. Our next agenda item is an evidence session as part of our inquiry into a modern and sustainable ferry service for Scotland. I refer members to the papers for this item, which is the 11th evidence session in our inquiry into Scotland’s ferry services.
Our first panel today is made up of representatives from Caledonian Maritime Assets Ltd, which is a company owned by the Scottish Government and is the asset owner of some of Scotland’s ports and vessels. On behalf of the committee, I am pleased to welcome from CMAL: Morag McNeill, chair; Kevin Hobbs, the chief executive officer; Jim Anderson, director of vessels; and Ramsay Muirhead, director of port infrastructure and planning. I thank them for accepting our invitation. We are very pleased to have them here.
I believe Kevin Hobbs would like to make a brief opening statement.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 28 February 2023
Edward Mountain
He has not. He offered to ring me and give me an explanation, which was not satisfactory to me. That information should have been given to the committee. I do not want to dwell on this too much longer, but you are carrying the can as far as I can see. CalMac talks about substitute vessels not being available for any other reason. All those are given as reasons, so it cannot be for those reasons. It would be useful if you exerted some pressure to say that you have not cancelled those sailings, because it may give the wrong impression that you have. Minister, I know that you would not want that on your shoulders.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 28 February 2023
Edward Mountain
Kevin, I want to go back to the answer that you gave, in which you said that you basically feel that the system works fairly well. You will have read the “Construction and procurement of ferry vessels in Scotland” report. Did you agree with that, in principle?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 28 February 2023
Edward Mountain
Are you making “root and branch” changes? “Root and branch” suggests a massive change.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 28 February 2023
Edward Mountain
Jim, I understand why you want to disassociate CMAL from 801 and 802—
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 28 February 2023
Edward Mountain
Liam Kerr wants to come in.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 28 February 2023
Edward Mountain
Thinking about what you have just said, I am told that the yard that is building 801 and 802 has questioned whether it was sensible to commission liquefied natural gas vessels. It has been instructed to provide such vessels, because that was the commitment. Was LNG a mistake? Is it a fuel that we should be using in future for our ferries, given that it is difficult to get, comes in a lorry from Kent, I think, and needs special storage? Is it going to be a fuel of the past rather than a fuel of the future?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 28 February 2023
Edward Mountain
That was quite spooky, but I am now back on track.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 21 February 2023
Edward Mountain
If we add up the figures for force majeure, mechanical problems and Scottish Government approved cancellations, the total is jolly nearly more than the figure for cancellations that were caused by adverse weather. The same amount are down to things that are within your control and to the weather, which you cannot control. That is concerning.
Sorry—I got slightly distracted there. I return to the deputy convener.