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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 7 March 2023
Edward Mountain
It must be a brief one. I am sorry—I am just worried about time.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 7 March 2023
Edward Mountain
Agenda item 3 is consideration of petition PE1866, which was lodged by Daryl Cooper in May 2021. The petition calls on the Scottish Parliament to urge the Scottish Government to introduce legislation to provide for wheelchair users to be able to face frontwards when travelling on a bus.
I refer members to paper 3, which provides background information and outlines possible actions.
At our meeting on 1 November 2022, the committee considered the petition and agreed to keep it open. The committee agreed to write to the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities to ask how local authorities were delivering improvements for wheelchair users on public buses. It also agreed to make representations to the UK Government on its upcoming review of the rules that govern accessibility on public transport.
I turn to committee members for their views. I note, in particular, the options that are set out in paragraph 18 of paper 3, which are to keep the petition open and await the outcome of the review of the Public Service Vehicles Accessibility Regulations 2000, which is expected later this year, before agreeing further action, or to close the petition on the basis that the committee has exhausted all options to progress it and to agree to write to the House of Commons Transport Committee, which is undertaking an inquiry on accessible transport, to inform it of the petition and the concerns that it highlights and ask it to let us know the outcome of its inquiry. What are members’ views?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 7 March 2023
Edward Mountain
That concludes the public part of our meeting.
11:15 Meeting continued in private until 12:31.Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 7 March 2023
Edward Mountain
Our next item of business is evidence on the outcomes of COP15. I refer members to the committee papers.
At the summit in Montreal, a new global framework was agreed for halting and reversing biodiversity loss across the world. To take stock of COP15 and what its outcomes mean for Scotland, the committee will hear from a panel of Scotland and United Kingdom-based experts in biodiversity policy.
On behalf of the committee, I am pleased to welcome Dr Daniela Diz, who is associate professor of international ocean governance at the Lyell Centre, which is based at Heriot-Watt University and Professor Colin Galbraith, who is the chair of the Joint Nature Conservation Committee. I would have liked to have welcomed Professor Peter Hollingsworth, but he is unable to attend because of a family bereavement. I am sorry for him and I am sorry that we will miss his evidence. We are also joined by Dr Deborah Long, who is the chief officer of Scottish Environment LINK. Joining us remotely we have Dr Ruth Mitchell, who is head of the biodiversity and ecosystems group at the James Hutton Institute.
Thank you all for accepting our invitation. We are delighted to have you here. We have a series of questions for you, the first of which will come from the deputy convener, Fiona Hyslop.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 7 March 2023
Edward Mountain
I would like to apologise. My good manners deserted me at the start of the session; I should have welcomed Mercedes Villalba, who is joining the committee today. I will give you a chance to ask questions at the end, Mercedes, and I am sorry for not introducing you earlier. That was my mistake.
The next questions are from Liam Kerr.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 7 March 2023
Edward Mountain
Looking around at committee members, I think that we are agreed that we should write to the Transport Committee to make it aware of the petition and our concerns in this area and ask it to inform us of the outcome of the inquiry so that we can consider that. The petition has come to a natural conclusion and, therefore, we should close it. Obviously, we should write to the petitioner to ensure that they are aware of what we are doing and why we are doing it. Is the committee agreed?
Members indicated agreement.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 7 March 2023
Edward Mountain
Good morning and welcome to the eighth meeting in 2023 of the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee.
The first item on our agenda is to make a decision on whether to take items 4, 5 and 6 in private. Item 4 is consideration of the evidence that we will hear today on the outcomes of the 15th United Nations biodiversity conference of the parties—COP15—item 5 is consideration of a draft report on the Energy Bill and item 6 is consideration of the committee’s work programme. Do members agree to take those items in private?
Members indicated agreement.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 7 March 2023
Edward Mountain
There are still quite a few questions to go and time is short—it flies when you are having fun. We have some questions from Jackie Dunbar, followed by Mark Ruskell and Mercedes Villalba.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 7 March 2023
Edward Mountain
Do you have any other questions, Mercedes?
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 1 March 2023
Edward Mountain
Good farmers would never stop managing the grassland properly to ensure that it does both. That is what I do not understand. You are suggesting leaving it alone. You cannot eat leaving it alone.
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