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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 14 March 2023
Edward Mountain
Have you finished with the teething issues, Mark? I see that someone has a supplementary on that issue.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 14 March 2023
Edward Mountain
Truthfully, Mr Kerr, I have allowed you to push that quite a long way. I have asked the minister to write to the committee, because I think that the subject is of interest to us, as will be understanding who will shoulder the obligations. It will be a short-term loan to allow something to happen, but it will have long-term consequences and costs relating to managing the environment beyond that. The committee would like to know more about that. So, the more you can share with us, minister, the more grateful we will be.
I will bring in Collette Stevenson, who lost her question in the cut and thrust of that exchange.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 14 March 2023
Edward Mountain
Before I bring in Mark Ruskell, I will ask one more question on that issue. My concern is that carbon credits come with a sting in the tail, because we do not know what their ultimate cost will be. If firms are buying up or giving bridging loans, that might be for carbon credits, which is an interesting concept. Therefore, I find it odd that the Government has not discussed their use and discounted it or agreed that they should be used.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 14 March 2023
Edward Mountain
I absolutely understand that, but that help comes at a cost. I am trying to identify whether the help is attached to carbon credits.
I will bring in Mark Ruskell, and then I might follow that up a little more.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 14 March 2023
Edward Mountain
Can I finish on my carbon credits question, then come back to you on marine protected areas?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 14 March 2023
Edward Mountain
Mercedes, you are up next. Fiona, if you want to come in on the back of this question, we will see if we have time.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 14 March 2023
Edward Mountain
Absolutely.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 14 March 2023
Edward Mountain
I was wondering when the question was coming.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 14 March 2023
Edward Mountain
Good morning and welcome to the ninth meeting of the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee in 2023. Today we have received apologies from Monica Lennon and Ash Regan. I welcome Collette Stevenson. Mercedes Villalba will also attend later, as a substitute. When she joins us I will have to pause to ask her whether she wants to declare interests before she asks any questions. Technically, that is the first item on the agenda, but it will come at the correct moment.
Therefore, we will move to agenda item 2, which is to make a decision on whether to take items 6, 7 and 8 in private. Items 6 and 7 are consideration of the evidence that we will hear today on the outcome of the 15th United Nations biodiversity conference of the parties—COP15—and Scotland’s deposit return scheme. Item 8 is consideration of a draft report on the United Kingdom Energy Bill. Do members agree to take those items in private?
Members indicated agreement.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 14 March 2023
Edward Mountain
Item 3 is an evidence session that forms part of our scrutiny of the outcomes of the 15th UN biodiversity conference of the parties, otherwise known as COP15. Members have received papers on the subject.
Last week, the committee heard from a panel of experts in biodiversity policy. This week we will hear from the Scottish Government on its views on the outcomes of COP15 and about how the targets that were agreed at the summit will be embedded in the new Scottish biodiversity strategy.
I welcome Lorna Slater, the Minister for Green Skills, Circular Economy and Biodiversity. Thank you for attending today. I also welcome Matthew Bird, who is biodiversity team leader, and Lisa McCann, who is head of biodiversity, from the Scottish Government. I believe that you wish to make a brief opening statement, minister.