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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 9 May 2023
Edward Mountain
Our next item of business is an evidence-taking session as part of our inquiry into Scotland’s electricity infrastructure: inhibitor or enabler of our energy ambitions.
Today, we will conclude the inquiry by hearing from the Scottish Government to understand its vision for our electricity infrastructure as set out in the draft energy strategy. We will also explore other themes that have emerged during our inquiry.
I am pleased to welcome Neil Gray, Cabinet Secretary for Wellbeing Economy, Fair Work and Energy—thank you for accepting our invitation and congratulations on your new role. I also welcome from the Scottish Government: Claire Jones, head of onshore electricity policy; and Ragne Low, deputy director, onshore electricity policy. Thank you for joining us today.
Before we begin, cabinet secretary, I believe that you wish to make a brief opening statement.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 9 May 2023
Edward Mountain
Thank you very much, cabinet secretary. Before we get any further into the meeting, I remind members—and any members of the audience who might be listening—that, as a farmer and landowner, I have electricity transmission lines in the form of 11kV lines and 33kV ring main lines crossing my farm, and I am in negotiations with regard to a 132kV line. All of those will generate some income at some stage for the farm. I want there to be no doubt that I have some interests in these power lines, and I will continue to make that declaration as and when I believe it appropriate. However, having made that declaration, I do not believe that it prevents me from doing my job as convener of this committee. I just wanted everyone to know that.
I am also delighted, cabinet secretary, to hear you make at the outset the comment that I was going to make at the end of this session that you will be using the report from this inquiry to inform your decisions. The committee does feel that the inquiry is very important for the future of energy in Scotland.
I come first to the deputy convener, who has some questions.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 9 May 2023
Edward Mountain
I am not sure that the two go hand in hand, but I will ask my next question.
The CCC recommended the establishment of a GB-wide electricity infrastructure delivery group. Do you support that? What should its immediate priorities be?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 9 May 2023
Edward Mountain
Those are all the questions that we have. I thank the cabinet secretary and his officials.
The next step will be for this committee to produce a report to Parliament on our inquiry in the coming weeks. I would like to reiterate what I said at the beginning: the inquiry will produce interesting evidence that I believe the Government and the Parliament should consider carefully in relation to our targets to reach net zero. I think that our report will be crucial in enabling us to achieve that, so I can but encourage you, cabinet secretary, to give it credence when it comes out.
On that note, I will conclude the public part of our meeting.
10:59 Meeting continued in private until 12:01.Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 9 May 2023
Edward Mountain
Okay. Thank you. The next set of questions will come from Fiona Hyslop.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 9 May 2023
Edward Mountain
I look forward to the opportunity to discuss whether it is income or capital for Crown Estate and whether the money should remain within the Crown Estate or come into the Scottish purse, which is a conversation that I had with your predecessor.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 9 May 2023
Edward Mountain
If the gas price remains high, it encourages investment in renewables—if the prices are linked—but it disadvantages the consumer. We pay more for our electricity if it is generated from renewable resources. Are you happy with that?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 9 May 2023
Edward Mountain
I think that Mark Ruskell has a follow-up question.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 9 May 2023
Edward Mountain
Thank you very much, cabinet secretary. We move to questions from the committee.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 9 May 2023
Edward Mountain
Good morning, and welcome to the 16th meeting in 2023 of the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee. Under our first agenda item, we will decide whether to take items 5 and 6 in private. Item 5 is consideration of the evidence that we will hear under item 4, and item 6 is consideration of a draft report on the Scottish Government’s air quality improvement plan. Do we agree to take those items in private?
Members indicated agreement.