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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 30 May 2023
Edward Mountain
Good morning and welcome to the 19th meeting of the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee in 2023. The first item on the agenda is to decide whether to take in private item 3, which is consideration of the evidence on the railways that we will hear today. Do we agree to take item 3 in private?
Members indicated agreement.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 30 May 2023
Edward Mountain
I thank all the witnesses for coming this morning. Your passion for the subject has been clear to all. Thank you for your evidence and for explaining to me the complex structure of how the whole system works.
I briefly suspend the meeting to allow for a change of witnesses.
10:42 Meeting suspended.Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 30 May 2023
Edward Mountain
I very much take that point.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 23 May 2023
Edward Mountain
Thank you very much.
Before we go any further, I will check whether there are any declarations of interests.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 23 May 2023
Edward Mountain
I have a quick question about that. I have noticed that it has been said a couple of times during the meeting that the bus services in urban areas can be as good as you like, but if people who live in rural areas cannot get into the urban areas, urban services are pretty much useless to them. How are we going to take the rural areas along with the ambition if they lack the services?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 23 May 2023
Edward Mountain
Thank you very much. In that case, the next questions will come from Mark Ruskell.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 23 May 2023
Edward Mountain
Before we move on, Silke Isbrand wants to add to that.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 23 May 2023
Edward Mountain
Silke, now is your moment, if Gail lets you in.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 23 May 2023
Edward Mountain
I did some figures across Highland—60 per cent of the houses do not meet energy performance certificate C standard. If you do a back-of-a-fag-packet calculation—which I am not in favour of—it comes out at about £350 million to get the houses that are below EPC C up to that standard, which is a huge cost. If you put that out across the whole of Scotland, across all the local authorities, the costs will be eye-watering. From the committee’s point of view, it is about keeping a handle on that.
Gail, do you think that COSLA will be able to give us an indication of the costs? We know the size of the problem, but surely we cannot fix it until we know the size of the costs.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 23 May 2023
Edward Mountain
Okay. Thank you very much for that.
I will ask the first questions. Gail Macgregor said:
“This report by the Committee on the just transition to a net zero economy is potentially a watershed moment for Scotland in tackling climate change.
The report is clear that Scotland will not meet its ambitious climate targets without a more empowered Local Government.”
Will you start off by fleshing out those two sentences for us, Gail?