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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 13 June 2023
Edward Mountain
I will make no further observation on that, minister, except to re-read your words to you, which are:
“I committed to provide an indication of when the findings from the March Gateway Review will be shared.”
You have shared the other documents, as you have rightly said, which the committee has been pushing for. As convener, my observation is that that has taken too long.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 13 June 2023
Edward Mountain
I will make an observation, minister. On 14 March, you told the committee that the gateway review was imminent. On 24 March, you said in a letter to the committee that you would make it available. You also advised us that you had:
“committed to provide an indication of when findings from the March Gateway Review will be shared. The review report is currently in the process of being finalised. Therefore I will share the review findings with the committee in due course.”
10:15On 27 April, you told us that that would be imminent. On 8 June, I wrote to you regarding a report on the instructions to the committee and asked for the gateway review to be provided as soon as possible. If a committee asks for a report in March and, by June, it still does not have it, my observation is that that is disrespectful to the committee. I make that observation with no political point. The committees in the Parliament are here for a reason. It would have helped today’s evidence session if we had had that gateway review in front of us. I am not asking you to respond, but I think that it is wrong.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 13 June 2023
Edward Mountain
I was not saying that there was a chance that the scheme would go forward in 2025; I was saying that there is a chance that CSL might be needed in 2025. From a business point of view, it is a punt to continue funding that level of salaries and costs on the basis that that organisation might be part of the new scheme.
10:30Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 13 June 2023
Edward Mountain
Before we move on to the next item of business, minister, and while you have your team around you, it would be helpful if we could explore a wee bit why we are going on to that item, which is on an affirmative Scottish statutory instrument that will delay the scheme that was put before Parliament to March 2024 and will modify it, although we know that it will not start then.
What have you done to expedite the outcome so that the committee can consider something that is—it appears to me and might appear so to people outside Parliament—purely a delaying process that kicks some parts of the scheme down the road so that we do not have a start date? Could we have done something different, whereby the committee considered an SSI to put the whole DRS on hold, rather than amending the scheme before recess? I would like to hear your views on that; people who are watching would find it helpful.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 13 June 2023
Edward Mountain
Can you quantify “risky”? I do not quite understand that. Surely, the Parliament is set up to allow a process to stop the scheme now, even if that meant the committee sitting during recess so that the procedure—whatever it is—could be carried out before 16 August.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 13 June 2023
Edward Mountain
Was the mood music that 20p was the right level to set?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 13 June 2023
Edward Mountain
Is your view that you want to impose the level that you want on the rest of the United Kingdom, or is it that you believe that the UK should just do what you are doing?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 13 June 2023
Edward Mountain
No, no, minister. Sorry, but I just want to push you slightly on that, if I may. That seems to be a pretty fundamental issue and you do not believe that that has yet been discussed.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 13 June 2023
Edward Mountain
Will that cover the costs of those councils that do collect bottles, if they lose the bottles?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 13 June 2023
Edward Mountain
I am a bit confused. CSL has day-to-day costs to keep going and industry knows that no scheme will come down the road until 2025. Some parts of industry have paid quite a lot of money to keep CSL going. Do you think that they will continue funding CSL on the chance that it will be needed in 2025? That seems quite speculative. Are you happy that that is a reasonable business investment?