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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 16 December 2025

Edward Mountain

Okay. Mark Ruskell, I think you have a question that you want to ask.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 16 December 2025

Edward Mountain

Right, okay. That is quite stark—I am sure that committee members will pick up on that as we go through the session. I noticed that some of the witnesses were nodding when you were making those comments. It will be up to them to build on them.

The next questions are from Mark Ruskell.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 16 December 2025

Edward Mountain

I will butt in here briefly. I am conscious that only two members have asked questions and that another five members want to ask questions. It is fine for the witnesses to keep talking, but I have to work with the five other committee members who you are excluding, so could you be kind to me before Christmas and try to keep your answers as short as possible so that I can bring them all in?

Lloyd Austin and, I think, one or two other panellists mentioned livestock, so I remind members of my entry in the register of members’ interests, which shows that I am a livestock farmer and have an interest in a livestock farm in Moray. That does not mean that I do not agree with anything that you say, but people should bear that in mind.

I think that Mark Winskel is next—your brevity would be of benefit for my Christmas. Thank you.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 16 December 2025

Edward Mountain

I am sorry. I did not know my microphone was on. I was gently reminding the deputy convener that Kevin Anderson wants to come in as well. I am sorry if I have put you off your stride—I apologise.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 16 December 2025

Edward Mountain

We come to questions from Monica Lennon, who is joining us online.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 16 December 2025

Edward Mountain

That is none of the three answers that I mentioned. [Laughter.] Let us see whether James Curran can improve on that.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 16 December 2025

Edward Mountain

Welcome back. Our fourth item of business is an evidence session on the Scottish Government’s draft climate change plan, which sets out how the Government intends to meet its carbon reduction targets. The committee is leading a cross-committee effort to scrutinise the draft plan, and the Scottish Government has said that it will lay the final plan by the end of March. Everyone who gives evidence today will be contributing to a report that we will publish in, I hope, late February, with a debate in the chamber to follow.

I welcome to the meeting Lloyd Austin, policy adviser for Stop Climate Chaos Scotland; Professor James Curran, a member of the Climate Emergency Response Group; Dr Mark Winskel, a senior lecturer at the University of Edinburgh; Jess Pepper, the founder and director of Climate Café; and Professor Kevin Anderson, a professor of energy and climate change at the Tyndall Centre for Climate Change Research. I thank all the witnesses for attending the meeting.

This evidence session is intended to provide an overview of the whole draft climate change plan, without a focus on any specific policy. We will go straight to questions. As convener, I get to ask the first question, which is always an easy one—the warmer into the bank, as it were—to allow you to express your views. Given that there are five witnesses, it will not be possible for everyone to answer every question that is asked. To help me, if you agree with something that somebody said earlier, you do not have to repeat it. It would be great if you could just say that you agree or that you do not agree and then say why, because that will save a bit of time. We have about two hours for this evidence session.

It is seven years since we had a full climate change plan, and it is five years since the climate change plan update. A lot of countries, including Scotland, have adopted an ambition for net zero emissions, with the intention of achieving the Paris agreement targets on temperature increase. In your view—you will all get a chance to answer this question—what are the key things that have changed?

I will bring in Lloyd Austin first.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 16 December 2025

Edward Mountain

No, but I am interested in whether you have fears, given that you gave evidence in 2017 and since then, that we are in the last three months of this parliamentary session, having had a little break for Christmas, and are still trying to find our way through the plan. Does that concern you?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 16 December 2025

Edward Mountain

I think that we will have a month, once the consultation has finished, to find out.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Draft Climate Change Plan

Meeting date: 16 December 2025

Edward Mountain

Kevin Anderson has been waiting patiently.