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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 27 June 2023
Edward Mountain
Thank you for that brief question and brief answer, which bring us to the end of this session. I will suspend the meeting until 11:15 to allow for a changeover of witnesses and let members prepare for the next item. Cabinet secretary, thank you and your officials for attending. You are staying with the committee for the next item, so we will see you shortly.
11:07 Meeting suspended.Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 27 June 2023
Edward Mountain
Our next item is evidence on a type 1 consent notification on the Persistent Organic Pollutants (Amendment) Regulations 2023.
The United Kingdom Government is seeking the Scottish Government’s consent to legislate in an area of devolved competence in respect of a UK statutory instrument. On 18 June, the Cabinet Secretary for Transport, Net Zero and Just Transition notified the committee of the UK instrument. The Scottish Government asked whether the committee could, exceptionally, consider the regulations by 28 June, in order to complete parliamentary consideration before the summer recess. I agreed to place the item on the agenda for this meeting.
The committee’s role is to decide whether it agrees with the Scottish Government’s proposal to consent to the UK Government making the regulations within devolved competence, and in the manner that the UK Government has indicated to the Scottish Government. We aim to come to a view on that after today’s evidence.
I am pleased to welcome back Màiri McAllan, Cabinet Secretary for Transport, Net Zero and Just Transition. The cabinet secretary is joined by Dan Merckel, chemicals team leader from the Scottish Government. Before we move on to questions, would you like to make a brief opening statement, cabinet secretary?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 27 June 2023
Edward Mountain
I have one more question before I pass over to Mark Ruskell. Running along the edge of the A9 is a very important railway line for the Highlands. There has been a lot of talk of decarbonising transport, which would require more trains to go up and down that route. What are the plans for putting double tracks there in significant proportion to allow more trains to run on that route? That would decrease the travel time on the route and perhaps increase its use, rather than increasing the travel time, which is what has happened in the past 10 years.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 27 June 2023
Edward Mountain
Sorry, I will let Liam Kerr come back in, as he asked a question and now has a response.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 27 June 2023
Edward Mountain
I am not sure that I have the option, so just go for it.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 27 June 2023
Edward Mountain
We have a series of questions from Monica Lennon.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 27 June 2023
Edward Mountain
Thank you. That brings us to—Liam Kerr is frowning. Have I missed a question that you wanted to ask?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 27 June 2023
Edward Mountain
Good morning, and welcome to the 23rd meeting in 2023 of the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee. We have received apologies from Jackie Dunbar, and Bob Doris is attending the meeting as a substitute member for the Scottish National Party. Welcome, again, Bob.
This is our first public meeting since our deputy convener, Fiona Hyslop, left the committee to take up her new role as Minister for Transport. I am sure that we all agree that the committee benefited greatly from Fiona’s experience in government and the diligence that she showed while on the committee. We all wish her well in her new role—there are lots of things to deal with. I am glad that we have that on the record.
Under our first agenda item, we must decide whether to take items 5 and 6 in private. Item 5 is consideration of the evidence that we will hear under item 2, and item 6 is consideration of our work programme. Do members agree to take those items in private?
Members indicated agreement.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 27 June 2023
Edward Mountain
I have a question before we leave the topic of the environment, cabinet secretary. You have explained the importance of biodiversity and the aim to reach net zero. We grow a few trees on the farm, but purely for non-commercial purposes. Across Scotland, there was a commercial target for 15,000 hectares to be planted last year, but we achieved only 8,000 hectares, which is 53 per cent of the total. Since 2016, we have been gradually dropping behind the Government targets year on year. Does that worry you?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 27 June 2023
Edward Mountain
We saw an agreement signed between Lorna Slater and private investment to increase forestry. We tried to find out exactly what that would involve, what levels of funding were going to be generated and how the private sector was going to benefit from it—because, although it is altruistic, I am sure, in wanting to see more trees, there must be some benefit. However, I am not sure that we ever got to the bottom of that. Do you fully understand it, cabinet secretary?