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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 12 December 2023
Edward Mountain
Okay. Perfect. Douglas, do you want to come back on any of that?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 12 December 2023
Edward Mountain
That was a long sentence.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 12 December 2023
Edward Mountain
Okay. I am walking away with four yeses, which is probably as positive as I can get.
Thank you very much for sharing your expertise with us this morning.
On 9 January, we will take evidence from a panel of experts on terrestrial biodiversity. We will then write a letter to the Scottish Government to input our views on the draft plan before it is finalised. We look forward to sharing that with you.
We will now move into private session.
11:25 Meeting continued in private until 13:10.Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 12 December 2023
Edward Mountain
Does Bob Doris have any further questions?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 12 December 2023
Edward Mountain
You will get only one answer.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 12 December 2023
Edward Mountain
Thank you, Mark. Monica Lennon has a couple of questions.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 12 December 2023
Edward Mountain
Mark Ruskell wants to come in. Unfortunately, Phil Taylor has had to leave for another appointment. There is an empty chair there. He has not been empty-chaired; he had to leave.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 12 December 2023
Edward Mountain
There could be a yes or no answer.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 12 December 2023
Edward Mountain
Good morning, and welcome to the 36th meeting in 2023 of the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee.
The first item on the agenda is to consider whether to take items 3, 4 and 5 in private. Item 3 is consideration of the evidence that we will hear today on the biodiversity delivery plan, item 4 is consideration of the list of candidates for appointment to the role of committee adviser, and item 5 is consideration of the list of recommended candidates for appointment to the Scottish Land Commission. Do we agree to take those items in private?
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 12 December 2023
Edward Mountain
Our next item of business is an evidence session on the draft delivery plan to accompany the Scottish Government’s new biodiversity strategy. The committee is continuing work that it started last autumn, when it took evidence on the draft strategy. It was clear that the practical delivery of the strategy was going to be crucial, and this session is about the new draft plan. Today, we have a panel of experts on marine biodiversity to share their views on the draft. We will discuss the terrestrial aspects of the plan early in the new year.
This morning, I am pleased to welcome Dr Clare Cavers, senior projects manager at Fidra; Calum Duncan, head of conservation, Scotland, at the Marine Conservation Society; Elspeth Macdonald, chief executive of the Scottish Fishermen’s Federation—gosh, that proved a bit difficult to say—Tavish Scott, chief executive of Salmon Scotland; and Phil Taylor, head of policy and operations at the Open Seas Trust. Vicki Paxton, partnership manager for Moray Firth Coastal Partnership, was going to participate remotely, but she is, unfortunately, unwell and so is unable to join us. Thank you to those who are here. We have just over 90 minutes for the session.
Before we move to questions, I will declare an interest, which I always do when we discuss salmon in any shape or form. So that the committee and the panel are aware, I am the joint owner of a wild salmon fishery on the east coast of Scotland. That wild salmon fishery generates income and employment in the local economy and, to my mind, is not affected by aquaculture on the west coast of Scotland, because the salmon that migrate from the river that I am involved with do not move through that aquaculture zone. For clarity, I take the importance of wild salmon to heart. This morning, I was concerned to see that wild salmon is on the International Union for Conservation of Nature’s red list. There should be no doubt in anyone’s mind that I have an interest. I am and have been passionate about the subject for about 40-odd years, so I am not going to change.
On that note, we will move to questions. I will put the first question to each of you in turn, so you will all have a chance to answer it. I have read your submissions to the committee. I do not think that anyone universally supports the way in which the delivery plan is going forward. Some people think that it does not go far enough and some think that it goes too far as it is. I will start with you, Clare. I am not giving you a platform of an hour and a half, but you can take a couple of minutes to say why it is either good or bad. I will come to each of you in turn.