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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Edward Mountain

You have your answer. Jackie, do you have any more questions?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Edward Mountain

We will leave it there. That was quite a long answer. I am sorry, but we are up against the clock. I reiterate that there are some things that members wanted to ask but have been unable to do so because of time restrictions. There are questions about targets and target setting that we should have got to but did not, because of my poor time management, so the clerks will follow up in writing to ask witnesses for their views.

I thank the three witnesses for their evidence today. I will briefly suspend the meeting to allow the witnesses to leave. I want members back here at 12:10 for the next item.

12:07 Meeting suspended.  

12:11 On resuming—  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Edward Mountain

Are members content that the provision set out in the notification should be made in the proposed UK statutory instrument? If the answer is yes, which it appears to be, we will write to the Scottish Government to that effect, but we will include a note with a request that we be given further time to examine such instruments.

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Edward Mountain

Our next agenda item is consideration of two instruments that have been laid under the negative procedure, which means that their provisions will come into force unless the Parliament agrees to a motion to annul them. No such motion has been lodged.

If no member wishes to comment, is the committee agreed that it does not wish to make any recommendations in relation to the instruments?

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Edward Mountain

That concludes the public part of our meeting.

12:16 Meeting continued in private until 12:47.  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Edward Mountain

Our second item is the consideration of a draft statutory instrument. I welcome Fiona Hyslop, the Minister for Transport; Bridget Bryden, the bus regulatory policy team leader in Transport Scotland; and Kevin Gibson, solicitor in the Scottish Government. Thank you for joining us.

The instrument is laid under the affirmative procedure, which means that it cannot come into force unless the Parliament approves it. Under the agenda item following the evidence session, the committee will be invited to consider a motion to recommend the approval of the instrument. I remind everyone that officials can speak under the current item but not under the next.

I ask the minister to make a brief opening statement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Edward Mountain

Thank you. You made a good point, which has been cleared up well. It was useful to hear that. Do any other members have questions?

I see no questions, so we will move straight to the next item on our agenda, which is formal consideration of motion S6M-10469, calling on the committee to recommend the approval of the Transport (Scotland) Act 2019 Amendment Regulations 2023.

Minister, do you want to speak to the motion or are you happy that you have spoken enough?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Edward Mountain

I am happy that you have spoken enough, minister. Thank you.

Motion moved,

That the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee recommends that the Transport (Scotland) Act 2019 Amendment Regulations 2023 [draft] be approved.—[Fiona Hyslop]

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Regulators

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Edward Mountain

Before we go any further, I remind the committee of my entry in the register of members’ interest, or would you like to sum ups. I am part of a family farming partnership in Speyside. As such, we have regular interactions with both NatureScot and SEPA. SEPA is also a tenant on a small part of my farm, where it has a gauging station and a monitoring station to monitor water quality, which I encourage it to do. I have regular interactions with both agencies.

Since the committee’s last meeting, there has been a change in SEPA’s leadership. That change was quite abrupt, and for a small period of time, there was no designated chief executive—although I am sure that there has been effective leadership. Will that result in wider changes of governance and culture in your organisation, or were those aspects sufficient when the leadership changed?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Regulators

Meeting date: 3 October 2023

Edward Mountain

Okay. Our deputy convener Ben Macpherson wants to come in.