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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 8 November 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Edward Mountain

Does freight move on separate ferries? Is that what you are saying?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Edward Mountain

That is very helpful.

The next questions are from the deputy convener, Fiona Hyslop.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Edward Mountain

You referred to fairly long-term contracts of eight years. There might be changes in eight years. How detailed are the contracts? If I was an operator and I wanted to change the time of a sailing from 8 o’clock in the morning to 8.30, because that made more sense and there was more demand for that, would that be a bureaucratic nightmare or is there flexibility in the contracts to allow operators to respond quickly to changing demand?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Edward Mountain

That is very helpful—thank you for that. Mark Ruskell has some questions.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Edward Mountain

I want to push you a wee bit on that. You are the people who make the ferries work and deliver the services that we want, but you are not the people who specify what those ferries should look like. That is done by CMAL and Transport Scotland, as demonstrated in the construction and design of 801 and 802.

If you give somebody a tool to use and it is the wrong tool, they will never make it work. They will just say, “You have given us the wrong tool”. What I do not understand—this is what the deputy convener was asking about—is how CMAL, CalMac and Serco are all parts of a wheel, but one is driving the other and the person who is driving the other is not the person who is having to make it work. Is that a bad assumption?

11:15  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Edward Mountain

I have a few questions, if I may ask them without hogging the limelight at the end. Dag Hole, what happens when there is disruption and a ferry breaks down? Do those four companies have the ability to respond to that by moving ships around to fill in for breakdowns?

10:45  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Edward Mountain

That is very illuminating. If there is anything that either of you think that we have missed, I am happy to give you a couple of minutes to add anything before we bring this part of the meeting to a close. I do not normally do that but I think that it is important to hear your contributions today.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Edward Mountain

That is interesting. Harald Høyem, do you want to say anything?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Edward Mountain

Welcome back, everyone. I want to clarify something that I should have addressed when we were considering the statutory instrument earlier. We will have to report the outcome of the instrument in due course and I look for the committee to delegate authority to me, as convener, to finalise the report for publication. Are you all happy with that?

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Edward Mountain

The figure is 2,053 in this financial year, which is up from 1,100 the year before, so it is not insubstantial.