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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 8 November 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Edward Mountain

Jackie Dunbar is next.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Edward Mountain

That NorthLink perspective is interesting, but my analogy is probably a good one for 801 and 802, which do not seem to fit the requirements of anyone. At this stage, I question whether liquefied natural gas will ever be commissioned on 802, but that is a different story.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Edward Mountain

I was impressed when we went over to Mull. We saw the ferry coming back into Ardrossan. It did a handbrake turn to the right, having gone through a very narrow entrance to the harbour in windy conditions, as the next sailing was about to be cancelled. The skill of the crew was not in doubt, and the captain’s choice to do that and cope with those conditions was in no doubt. That is his domain.

If climate conditions are changing, which you have suggested they are, is it a good idea to build a superstructure that is even higher than the current ferry and more liable to wind-push? Should we not be looking at the design of the ferries to ensure that they can cope with those conditions instead of perhaps making things more difficult? Do you think that the captain would find it easy to get vessel 801 into Ardrossan in those conditions? I do not know. What does Robbie Drummond think?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Edward Mountain

Okay. I hope that there will be no more cancellations because of the wind if they have the power to beat it, although the wind is getting stronger.

The next questions are from Jackie Dunbar.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Edward Mountain

Before I come back to the minister, I would like to say that I think that the words of the deputy convener are particularly wise. My concern is that I would not want to vote against the motion because I would like the extension to be given. I support the motion, but I do so on the grounds that you will continue to engage with churches and religious organisations to make sure that the spirit of the act is being applied without it being to the detriment of what they are trying to achieve. We are in difficult times as far as costs are concerned and, in my opinion and from my experience as a land agent, going through this process will involve considerable costs.

I seek an understanding that, if I support the motion, you will continue to engage with churches, and that your door will be open to considering whether what you are asking them to do is the right thing and is in the spirit of what we are all trying to achieve, which is openness and transparency on land ownership—which, for the record, I totally support.

Minister, would you like to say anything?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Edward Mountain

Thank you. As the motion has been moved, I must put the question. The question is, that motion S6M-07603 be agreed to. Are we agreed?

Members: No.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Edward Mountain

I do not disagree with you. I understand that some churches own considerable amounts of land and that it is sometimes difficult to find out the extent of the land ownership. That is important. Did you consider allowing churches to make one entry for the whole church, or do churches still have to do that individually as a diocese or a grouping within a region?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Edward Mountain

Thank you for putting that on record. I am sure that all MSPs around the table have had representations on that from various people. That was extremely helpful.

I think that Mark Ruskell has a question.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Edward Mountain

That was a bit of a drift on to the bill that we may see later in this session. The deputy convener has a question.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Edward Mountain

I would like to clarify something, minister. Land ownership and restrictions and burdens on land can sometimes be difficult to identify. That is never more the case, I would suggest, than it is with church lands, bits of which may have been given away or taken by the church over a period of many generations. Is your message to them, “Fill this in as best you can,” and, as long as they make what is, as far as they are concerned, an honest declaration, they will be doing what you require and will not be held accountable if it turns out, at a later date, that there are some minor inaccuracies?