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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Water Annual Report and Accounts 2022-23

Meeting date: 31 October 2023

Edward Mountain

Of your salary?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Water Annual Report and Accounts 2022-23

Meeting date: 31 October 2023

Edward Mountain

Wow. That could be a lot of money. It costs over £1 million to employ the three executive members and the non-executive directors. In the big scheme of things, that is quite a lot of money. My maths is not that good but, if your bonus is 40 per cent of your salary, it could take you up to £430,000.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 October 2023

Edward Mountain

What is the rate of return on the investment? That figure of £10 million could be good or bad figure, depending on—

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Water Annual Report and Accounts 2022-23

Meeting date: 31 October 2023

Edward Mountain

Monica and Peter, this is really difficult. I know how seriously you take this, Monica, and I am sure that Scottish Water take it extremely seriously. I do not want anything to be misquoted or for anyone to be misled, which could cause the negotiations to fail.

Monica, you have very much made your points and your comments, and I encourage Peter or Alex to come back on those. I am not asking you to set out a pay statement or to put a pay deal on the table, but the committee is making the point to you that it is very concerned about this issue, and Monica has eloquently made that point. The committee is looking for an undertaking from Scottish Water that it has heard what we have said and to say what it is going to do about it.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Water Annual Report and Accounts 2022-23

Meeting date: 31 October 2023

Edward Mountain

Jim, I know that you will find that unsatisfactory, but you have an offer to take the matter offline straight after this committee meeting or as soon as possible. I would like to keep the discussion at a slightly higher level.

I have another question before we leave that area completely. Obviously, not putting up the charges for Scottish Water has implications for how people are remunerated.

Looking at the accounts, it seems that you had more employees at the end of the accounting period. I had not seen that the salaries had gone up significantly to replicate that. It is very difficult to see in the accounts how much of the salary increase on the previous year was due to extra employees or to pay. Is there a conflict between what you can pay your staff and what you can get in from the income that you raise from the public?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 October 2023

Edward Mountain

Okay, I understand that. There are companies and banks out there that want to join you.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 31 October 2023

Edward Mountain

So it was just a paper exercise. Are you saying that there was no trading as a result or that there was no financial benefit from somebody having an overallocation?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 31 October 2023

Edward Mountain

You have piqued my interest—I am now interested in knowing what the scale of that was. You will probably not be able to give me that information now, and it would be wrong of me to ask the question, but I am sure that you could write to the committee and say what the level was. It would be interesting for us to get a handle on that.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 31 October 2023

Edward Mountain

We look forward to getting the additional information that the cabinet secretary has kindly offered to give us.

Cabinet secretary, I thank you and your officials for attending, and I briefly suspend the meeting to allow for a changeover of witnesses.

09:29 Meeting suspended.  

09:31 On resuming—  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Water Annual Report and Accounts 2022-23

Meeting date: 31 October 2023

Edward Mountain

Our next item of business is an evidence session with Scottish Water and Business Stream, which is a subsidiary of Scottish Water. This is a chance for the committee to check in with Scottish Water on its important role. We will consider its most recent annual report and look ahead to its main priorities and challenges.

Before I go any further, I welcome Sarah Boyack, who is attending the meeting and who will get to ask questions at the end, once committee members have had a chance to ask a few questions.

As a matter of information, I remind people that I, along with every other person in Scotland—or the majority of people in Scotland, although not everyone—am a client of Scottish Water in the sense that I get water, but I am also a client of Business Stream, in that I get water from it for my farm. I say that just so that there is no dubiety about that.

I am pleased to welcome Dame Susan Rice, the chair of Scottish Water; Alex Plant, the chief executive of Scottish Water; Peter Farrer, the chief operating officer of Scottish Water; and Johanna Dow, the chief executive of Business Stream. Thank you for joining us.

Before we move to questions, I believe, Dame Susan, that you wish to make an opening statement. That is very formal—do you mind if I call you Susan?