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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 27 February 2024
Edward Mountain
Good morning, and welcome to the eighth meeting of the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee in 2024. We have apologies from Monica Lennon and Sarah Boyack MSP is attending in her place as a Scottish Labour substitute member of the committee. Graham Simpson MSP is also here, primarily to ask questions about ferries. Welcome to you both.
The first item on the agenda is a decision on whether to take in private item 6, which is consideration of the evidence that we will hear under item 4, on ferries. Do we agree to take item 6 in private?
Members indicated agreement.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 27 February 2024
Edward Mountain
Our next item of business is consideration of a draft Scottish statutory instrument. I am pleased to welcome Gillian Martin, the Minister for Energy, Just Transition and Fair Work. She is joined by Karen Dickson, the Scottish Government official who is responsible for energy and markets policy, and Aedan MacRae, energy markets policy officer. Thank you for joining us today.
The instrument is laid under the affirmative procedure, which means that it cannot ?come ?into force unless the Parliament approves it. Following the evidence session, the committee will be invited, under the next agenda item, to consider a motion that the committee recommend to the Parliament that the instrument be approved. I remind everyone that the officials can speak under this agenda item but not in the debate that follows.
Minister, I think that you want to make a brief opening statement.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 27 February 2024
Edward Mountain
Thank you, minister. There are a few questions. Deputy convener Ben Macpherson will ask the first one.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 27 February 2024
Edward Mountain
Well, I think that CalMac has made it clear that it will take 10 weeks to do the training. If I have misrepresented that, I am sure that I can expect a flurry of emails, but it appears that it ain’t gonna come into service until the end of August at the earliest—assuming that there is somewhere to put the boat and some way of refuelling it.
Before we move on, I want to make an observation and then ask one further question. Earlier this year, the committee questioned you on the Maritime and Coastguard Agency’s obligations and requirements with regard to escape hatches. In fairness, you showed us quite clearly on Friday where those hatches were. As convener of the committee, though, I was disappointed to find myself in the position of having to write, on behalf of the committee, to the Maritime and Coastguard Agency as well as you and the Scottish Government to identify where the problems had arisen and when they were known about. I am not asking you to comment—it will probably suffice to say that I think that there was a certain amount of smoke and mirrors about this, which was extremely disappointing. However, we are where we are.
Can you confirm to me the original design for 801? I need to check my figures, but I think that its capacity was 1,000 passengers, 127 cars and 16 heavy goods vehicles. Will that be the capacity on the Glen Sannox when it is delivered to CMAL in mid-June?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 27 February 2024
Edward Mountain
Before we move off that, can I get a bit of clarity? It sounds as if Tim Hair negotiated piecemeal contracts. Are they the sort of contracts that you would negotiate?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 27 February 2024
Edward Mountain
That is not something that you would recommend.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 27 February 2024
Edward Mountain
We will leave that.
Douglas Lumsden has questions.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 27 February 2024
Edward Mountain
Andrew, will you comment on that and remind the committee of the capital investment that you were looking for about a year ago?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 27 February 2024
Edward Mountain
Sorry to interrupt, Mark, but I am keen to push our witnesses on the figure. Do you have a figure for capex for the small ferries programme?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 27 February 2024
Edward Mountain
Before Graham Simpson asks his next question, will the witnesses clarify something for me? You said that you put these figures to the Scottish Government. Does that mean that you go straight to Màiri McAllan, who is in charge of it, or do you have to report to somebody else who reports to somebody else who reports to somebody else and then it gets to Màiri McAllan? I do not understand the procedure. Perhaps you would explain that to me.