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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 3 January 2026
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Edward Mountain

I have been listening to what has been said and am interested in the costs. Ellie Murtagh suggested there is a need for faster action on domestic consumption, housing and travel, and Gabi Hegerl said that we must act faster if we are to stay below a 2° increase. Andrew Russell said that we must act now to prevent chronic problems from developing later, and Fabrice Renaud suggested making everything more self-sufficient. We have heard lots of suggestions and ideas.

Kevin Stewart suggested that we must make the changes more appealing to individuals and that they must be able to understand them, which I totally agree with; however, for people to understand the appeal, they have to understand how much it will cost. You do not plan for a boiler repair or replacement; when it happens, you have to do it pretty quickly because you need hot water.

You, as scientists and experts, have come up with all those plans. You must have worked out how much it will cost per household to deliver what you want to deliver or, if not, you must at least have a good idea of what it will cost, otherwise you will not be able to enthuse people. Do I have that totally wrong? Do you have an idea of what it will cost people in Scotland to get to net zero by 2045? The Government has an idea, but how much will it actually cost people?

I put that to you, Andrew Russell, because you did not look away quickly enough.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Edward Mountain

I am going to move on to Sarah Boyack, but I will say that last week, we heard the argument that a lot of people, including me, will be long gone by the time we have recouped our investment. I am investing for a future that I will not be here to see, but there is nothing wrong with that.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Edward Mountain

That sounds like an advertisement. On that note, I move to Bob Doris for his questions.

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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Edward Mountain

No, I am not going to blame deer for everything again.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Edward Mountain

The Climate Change Committee made it clear that a huge amount needs to be done, some of which is devolved and some of which is reserved. How are you getting on with the UK Government to resolve the conflict that there might be between reserved and devolved matters?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Edward Mountain

Sorry, cabinet secretary, but is that letter published, or is it a private letter?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Edward Mountain

I agree that there is no point in pointing out problems and not bringing solutions. It is always a question of whether the solutions are workable, and that will be for others to decide. Are the problems in the letter the only ones that you see? Is everything else tickety-boo and online, as far as reserved matters are concerned? Is there nothing else to worry about with regard to Scotland reaching net zero by 2045? Is that what you are saying?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Edward Mountain

That is twice. We do not need to do it a third time.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Edward Mountain

Okay. We will have a short question from the deputy convener.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 September 2025

Edward Mountain

Mark Ruskell has some questions.