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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 14 July 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Edward Mountain

I was taken by an answer that you gave there, cabinet secretary. I do not want to put words into your mouth, but I think that you said that you are not sure that people across Scotland know how much extra transmission we will need across Scotland to meet the demands and the needs of reaching net zero. I think that Scottish and Southern Electricity Networks is talking seven years in advance. I am not sure what the duration is for Scottish Power Energy Networks, but it is a relatively short-term thing.

Would it be useful if we came up with a plan to show what transmission will be needed in order to reach net zero? My mailbox is overloaded at the moment, perhaps like the national grid, and I do not think that anyone knows what is coming down the track towards them. Do you think that we ought to be honest with people and tell them that now?

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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Edward Mountain

I will leave it to you to inform the cabinet secretary’s office and, if you think that it is relevant as a committee issue, to keep the committee informed. If it is more relevant as a constituency issue, you can do that—the balance is for you to decide.

Before we leave hydro, I have a question for the cabinet secretary. There are some great examples of water being used more than once to generate electricity. The Tummel scheme, where water goes through five dams to generate electricity, is a good example. A bad example might be the water going down to Lochaber, which goes through one generation scheme but comes from three different catchments, including the one that I live in, which is the Spey catchment. How will the Scottish Government encourage a more holistic approach and more use of water that is being stored to generate as much electricity as possible?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Edward Mountain

I think that Mark Ruskell has a follow-up question.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Edward Mountain

If the gas price remains high, it encourages investment in renewables—if the prices are linked—but it disadvantages the consumer. We pay more for our electricity if it is generated from renewable resources. Are you happy with that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 May 2023

Edward Mountain

The next item of business is the consideration of a draft Scottish statutory instrument. I am pleased to welcome to the meeting Kevin Stewart, the Minister for Transport, and I welcome him to his new role. From Transport Scotland, I welcome to the meeting Natalie Barton, who is a solicitor, and George Beale-Pratt, who is the smart policy manager. I thank them for joining us.

The instrument is laid under the affirmative procedure, which means that the Parliament must approve it?before?it?comes?into force. Following the evidence session, the committee will be invited at the next agenda item to consider a motion to approve the instrument.?I remind members that officials can speak under this item but not in the debate that follows. I believe that the minister would like to make a short opening statement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 May 2023

Edward Mountain

Thank you, minister. Do any committee members have questions that they would like to ask?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 May 2023

Edward Mountain

It would be useful to have feedback when you are in a position to know that. The aim of the instrument and the committee’s aim is to encourage people to attend. We do not want hurdles to be put in their way.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Decisions on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 2 May 2023

Edward Mountain

The next decision is on whether to consider our draft report in private at future meetings. Do members agree to do so?

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 May 2023

Edward Mountain

The committee will report on the outcomes of the instrument in due course. I invite the committee to delegate authority to me as convener to finalise the report for publication. Are members happy to do that?

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 2 May 2023

Edward Mountain

No other members wish to contribute to the debate. Minister, I am advised that, technically, you may sum up in response to the debate, but I fear that you might not wish to add anything at this stage.