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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 27 February 2026
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scotland’s Railways

Meeting date: 19 March 2024

Edward Mountain

I am absolutely not disagreeing with the negotiating process; I am simply saying that you did not have enough money, so you had to get more money from Transport Scotland to cover the pay increase. Is that what will happen every year or will you be expected to fund pay increases for your staff from the money that you are given?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scotland’s Railways

Meeting date: 19 March 2024

Edward Mountain

He is itching to come in.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scotland’s Railways

Meeting date: 19 March 2024

Edward Mountain

You are not getting a follow-up question, because—

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scotland’s Railways

Meeting date: 19 March 2024

Edward Mountain

The next question is from Douglas Lumsden.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scotland’s Railways

Meeting date: 19 March 2024

Edward Mountain

I am struggling here, because a lot of members want to ask supplementary questions, but the clock is against me. If members come in with supplementary questions, others will not get to ask questions, which will be difficult, so I will stick with the list that we have worked out. I ask members to keep their questions short and I ask the witnesses to answer as succinctly as possible, which, I am sure, they will say they have done already.

Bob Doris has the next questions.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scotland’s Railways

Meeting date: 19 March 2024

Edward Mountain

Before you continue, I have no concept—I am not sure that people listening in will have, either—of the cost of a railway carriage or train.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scotland’s Railways

Meeting date: 19 March 2024

Edward Mountain

Thank you. The next question is from Douglas Lumsden.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scotland’s Railways

Meeting date: 19 March 2024

Edward Mountain

Thank you.

Monica, do you have a brief question?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scotland’s Railways

Meeting date: 19 March 2024

Edward Mountain

You said that you might do so in the future. Is it being looked at, at the moment?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scotland’s Railways

Meeting date: 19 March 2024

Edward Mountain

I am not sure who will answer my final question, but I remember that when Alex Hynes first came before this committee, we had the PPMs. They provided what I might call the excitement figure, which was used to beat Abellio up over why it was not performing to the requirement set by the Government.

Well, ScotRail ain’t meeting those targets either, and it has fewer trains on the track. My question, then, is this: has there been a marked improvement? Were PPMs unnecessary, not required or unhelpful? Is everything fine now, despite the fact that you are not reaching the targets that Abellio reached in the past?