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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 5 July 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 26 September 2023

Edward Mountain

Monica Lennon, you have the next question.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Edward Mountain

I did not mean to kill all the conversation.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Edward Mountain

In my book, comparing oneself to another person and saying that you are better, although you are not reaching the standard to which you aspire, is not really a measure of performance.

I go back to the question. The public performance measure—not the public satisfaction measure—has not been met since nationalisation. Increasing performance was one of the reasons given for nationalisation. When do you think that you are going to achieve the target? What happens if you have not achieved it in, say, six months’ time? There is nowhere to go after nationalisation, is there?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Edward Mountain

Bizarrely enough, minister, I have been listening to those assurances since 2016, since I first joined the committee that dealt with transport and trains. I heard them from Alex Hynes, when he was in charge of Abellio, and I have now heard them from you. I am sure that we will come back to that issue in six months’ time, but on that note, I move on to the next questions, which I believe are from Monica Lennon. I think that it is Monica next, is it not?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Edward Mountain

That is quite a comment to make, and I will check whether the committee was reticent in delaying its response. I do not believe that it was, and I will certainly not accept that. I will park that issue, because I am happy to have that conversation with the cabinet secretary offline.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Edward Mountain

It is probably fair to say—and it is not surprising—that the committee has requested a debate on ferries and the report that we produced. We have not been given a date yet but, when we have one, I am sure that you will be able to give us complete answers to all the questions.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Edward Mountain

Okay. Thank you very much, cabinet secretary. It has been a fairly full session. I am just looking around to make sure that I have not missed any member who wants to come in with another question. I think that that is it.

I will suspend the meeting briefly, but before I do so I remind you that the committee will be writing to the Government with our pre-budget observations later in the autumn.

10:16 Meeting suspended.  

10:25 On resuming—  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Edward Mountain

We move to questions from Mark Ruskell.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Edward Mountain

I think that I am correct in saying that the Transport (Scotland) Act 2019 states that it has to be done by local councils, not by central Government. That is what Parliament agreed to in the previous parliamentary session.

Jackie, you wanted to come in.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 19 September 2023

Edward Mountain

Okay.

As for the rearrangement of the structure involving Transport Scotland, CalMac and CMAL, the committee’s recommendation in its report reflected the recommendation in the previous Rural Economy and Connectivity Committee’s report. Two committees have made that same point. Some people might be holding out against those changes, but it is clear that two committees in different parliamentary sessions have recommended that they be made.

Are there any other questions? Douglas, you are not coming in on the A96 again, are you?