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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 14 September 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 14 November 2023

Edward Mountain

Welcome back. Our next item of business is an evidence session with environmental advocacy groups as part of our stage 1 scrutiny of the Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill.

I am pleased to welcome Phoebe Cochrane, who is the sustainable economics officer at Scottish Environment LINK; Michael Cook, who is the chief executive officer of Circular Communities Scotland; James Mackenzie, who is the circular economy advisor at Action to Protect Rural Scotland; and Kim Pratt, who is a circular economy campaigner from Friends of the Earth Scotland. Thank you for joining us today and for submitting evidence in response to the committee’s call for views. I also welcome Murdo Fraser MSP, who is joining us in connection with a specific aspect of the bill.

We have allowed up to 75 minutes for this agenda item and we will move straight to questions from committee members. I will kick off with an easy question and will give each witness an opportunity to answer. You will not get the opportunity to answer every question, but the first one is easy. Is it useful to have a circular economy strategy as part of the bill, and should that be in the bill rather than something that is produced later?

James Mackenzie, would you like to begin?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 14 November 2023

Edward Mountain

The committee will report on the outcome of the instrument in due course. I invite the committee to delegate authority to me, as convener, to finalise the report for publication. Are we agreed?

Jackie, you look nervous about that. Are you happy about it?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 14 November 2023

Edward Mountain

We have a whole heap of questions to get through. I call Douglas Lumsden, to be followed by Bob Doris.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 14 November 2023

Edward Mountain

Agenda item 2 is a decision to take agenda items 7 and 8 in private. Item 7 is consideration of the evidence heard on the Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill, and item 8 is consideration of our work programme. Do members agree to take those items in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 14 November 2023

Edward Mountain

Our next item of business is consideration of a draft statutory instrument. I am pleased to welcome the Minister for Transport, Fiona Hyslop, who is joined by two Scottish Government officials: Elise McIntyre, a principal legal officer at the Scottish Government legal directorate, and Fred O’Hara, head of road policy for Transport Scotland. I thank them for joining us today.

The instrument is laid under the affirmative procedure, which means that it cannot come into force unless the Parliament approves it. Following this evidence session, under the next agenda item, the committee will be invited to consider a motion that the committee recommends that the instrument be approved. I remind everyone that officials can speak during this item but not during the debate that follows.

I invite the minister to make a brief opening statement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 14 November 2023

Edward Mountain

How far down the line are you? Have you issued any exemptions or is there enough time between now and December to issue the exemptions that are needed?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 14 November 2023

Edward Mountain

My understanding is that local authorities can request exemptions in certain areas. I am asking whether any local authorities have requested exemptions and whether you have indicated that you will accede to them.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 14 November 2023

Edward Mountain

It strikes me that time is marching on. If you do not have an exemption, you are not exempt, and the areas where there are problems and bottlenecks might fall within the legislation.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Interests

Meeting date: 14 November 2023

Edward Mountain

Thank you. I remind members that, if they wish to declare an interest in connection with any item that comes up, they may, of course, do so.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Interests

Meeting date: 14 November 2023

Edward Mountain

Good morning, and welcome to the 32nd meeting of the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee in 2023. We have received apologies from Mark Ruskell and we are joined by Bob Doris, who is a new member of the committee. I welcome him officially to the meeting. We are very pleased to have you here, Bob.

The first item on the agenda is a declaration of interests by our new member. Bob, do you have any interests to declare?