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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 4 November 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Biodiversity Strategy (Draft Delivery Plan)

Meeting date: 9 January 2024

Edward Mountain

Thank you. I am sure that, somewhere in there, we will consider what we are going to eat, as well.

The next questions come from Mark Ruskell.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Biodiversity Strategy (Draft Delivery Plan)

Meeting date: 9 January 2024

Edward Mountain

Caroline Brown wants to come in. As a supplementary to the previous question, do you want to see a map-based approach, or should it all be in documents?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Biodiversity Strategy (Draft Delivery Plan)

Meeting date: 9 January 2024

Edward Mountain

I am not sure. Mark, do you want to come back in?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Biodiversity Strategy (Draft Delivery Plan)

Meeting date: 9 January 2024

Edward Mountain

Unfortunately, we are three quarters of the way through our time and probably 50 per cent through the questions, so it will be a balancing act. I do not want to cut anyone out, especially not the deputy convener, so I will come to him next.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Biodiversity Strategy (Draft Delivery Plan)

Meeting date: 9 January 2024

Edward Mountain

We will go to Ailsa first. I noticed that Paul Walton was nodding and wanting to come in, as well as Bruce Wilson, so I will bring them in next.

11:15  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Biodiversity Strategy (Draft Delivery Plan)

Meeting date: 9 January 2024

Edward Mountain

There is a huge catch-up process for politicians and Government in relation to what is happening on the ground, which seems to be well ahead of them.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 9 January 2024

Edward Mountain

Good morning, and welcome to the first meeting in 2024 of the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee. I suppose that this is probably the last time that I will get a chance to say this: I hope that everyone has a very happy new year and that it brings everything that they want.

Agenda item 1 is a decision on whether to take items 3 and 4 in private. Item 3 is to consider the evidence that we will hear today on the biodiversity delivery plans, and item 4 is to consider our work programme. Are we happy to take those items in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Biodiversity Strategy (Draft Delivery Plan)

Meeting date: 9 January 2024

Edward Mountain

Agenda item 2 is an evidence session on the draft delivery plan to accompany the Scottish Government’s new biodiversity strategy. The committee is continuing work that we started in late 2022, when we took evidence on the draft strategy. On 12 December, we discussed the delivery plan with a panel of experts on marine biodiversity. This morning, we will hear from a panel of experts and stakeholders on the terrestrial aspects of the plan.

I am pleased to welcome Dr Caroline Brown, director for Scotland, Ireland and English regions at the Royal Town Planning Institute; Sarah Cowie, policy manager for the National Farmers Union Scotland; Dr Paul Walton, head of habitats and species for RSPB Scotland; and Bruce Wilson, head of policy advocacy for the Scottish Wildlife Trust. Joining us remotely is Ailsa Raeburn, chairperson for Community Land Scotland.

I point out to those watching and to committee members that Dr Hannah Rudman, who was down to attend as a witness, has been unable to attend. Thank you to all those who have attended. I am pleased to welcome Finlay Carson MSP and Rhoda Grant MSP from the Rural Affairs and Islands Committee, who are in attendance for today’s evidence session. You will both get a chance to ask questions nearer to the end of the evidence session.

We will spend about 90 minutes on this session and move straight into committee members’ questions. Before we do, because the evidence is on the biodiversity strategy on land, I will make a voluntary declaration of interest and remind members that my entry in the register of members’ interests shows that I am a member of a family farming partnership—we farm land—and that I am also involved in a wild salmon fishery, where I am a partner. Both of those have possible relevance to what we are discussing this morning. Full details can be found in my entry in the register of members’ interests.

On that note, I turn to the first questions, which come from Douglas Lumsden.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Biodiversity Strategy (Draft Delivery Plan)

Meeting date: 9 January 2024

Edward Mountain

We can now, but we missed the first part, and I would hate it if you did not get your most salient point across.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Biodiversity Strategy (Draft Delivery Plan)

Meeting date: 9 January 2024

Edward Mountain

Douglas, just before you go on to the next question, I will float this point. I am concerned that it took quite a lot of time to get in all the answers to the first question. I have worked out that we have three hours of answers to come back, but we do not have three hours of time. Therefore, I will push you all continually during the meeting to be as brief as possible. I have started off 2024 on a sharp note on that.