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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 September 2024

Edward Mountain

I am definitely going to leave it at that; that is all the questions from the committee.

We will move on to agenda item 4, which is a debate on motion S6M-13568, which calls on the committee to recommend approval of the draft regulations. I remind members that only they and the cabinet secretary can speak in the debate. I invite the cabinet secretary to speak to the motion if she feels that it is necessary or just to move the motion.

Motion moved,

That the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee recommends that the Environmental Protection (Single-use Vapes) (Scotland) Regulations 2024 [draft] be approved.—[Gillian Martin]

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 September 2024

Edward Mountain

There are no more questions for the cabinet secretary. Normally I would suspend the meeting to allow the cabinet secretary to depart; however, I am going to push on, because we have quite a lot still to do. I thank you, cabinet secretary, and your various teams, including the longstanding members of your team who have attended all three of our evidence sessions, for coming this morning.

The next part of our meeting is to ask members’ views on whether the committee agrees with the Scottish Government’s proposal to consent to the UK Government making those regulations within devolved competence. Does anyone have views on that, or are we happy to approve the proposal? Bob Doris’s point was interesting, and the committee will want to keep an eye on how that cash is allocated. I am happy to listen to any comments.

As no member wishes to comment, is the committee content that the provisions that are set out in the notification should be included in the proposed UK SI?

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 September 2024

Edward Mountain

It can be a short question anyway.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Passenger Railway Services (Public Ownership) Bill

Meeting date: 3 September 2024

Edward Mountain

Okay. My point is that I want to know what the true costs are, that they will be met and that the change will not affect services in Scotland in any form. In the past, we have heard that poor railway network maintenance has resulted in reduced services in Scotland. I am sure that you will work on that.

Graham Simpson, do you want to ask any questions on this matter before we go on to the announcement that the cabinet secretary made?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Passenger Railway Services (Public Ownership) Bill

Meeting date: 3 September 2024

Edward Mountain

The example of Lumo is interesting because a lot of people benefit from being able to get reduced fares as a result of an operator coming in from outside, and I am sure that you will bear that in mind.

My question relates to the issue of money operating in a round-robin fashion. Network Rail gets around £2.1 billion a year from train operating companies, which helps to finance Network Rail, and about £58 million comes in from freight. If you take the train operating companies out, they will no longer be making contributions, so the money for Network Rail will have to come from the Government.

I know that you will probably say that the Government already gives money to private operators to run the services, but are you convinced that the proposal will not lead to increased costs for running the track, given that more than 50 per cent of Network Rail’s budget currently comes from private operators? Are you satisfied that funding for the railway lines will not decrease?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Passenger Railway Services (Public Ownership) Bill

Meeting date: 3 September 2024

Edward Mountain

I am looking around the table. Mark Ruskell, I think that I cut you off. You might have wanted to come in on an earlier question.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Passenger Railway Services (Public Ownership) Bill

Meeting date: 3 September 2024

Edward Mountain

Item 2 is consideration of a legislative consent memorandum on the Passenger Railway Services (Public Ownership) Bill. I welcome Fiona Hyslop, the Cabinet Secretary for Transport, and the Scottish Government officials who are joining us today—Jan Spy; Bill Reeve, director of rail at Transport Scotland; and Fiona Brittle, senior rail policy manager at Transport Scotland. Good morning to you all. Cabinet secretary, I believe that you want to make a brief opening statement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 September 2024

Edward Mountain

There are a few other questions, which I hope will be short and receive short answers. Sorry—I should not have said that before your question came up, Ben.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Passenger Railway Services (Public Ownership) Bill

Meeting date: 3 September 2024

Edward Mountain

Bob Doris wants to come in, then Monica Lennon.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Salmon Farming in Scotland

Meeting date: 26 June 2024

Edward Mountain

One of the things that has come out of the process that we have been engaged in is the fact that salmon farmers, wild fish interests and other users of the sea need to be good neighbours. Do you think that salmon farmers are good neighbours?