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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 September 2024

Edward Mountain

The committee will report on the outcome of the instrument in due course. I invite the committee to delegate authority to me, as convener, to approve the draft report for publication. Are members happy with that?

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 September 2024

Edward Mountain

The deputy convener has some questions.

10:45  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 September 2024

Edward Mountain

My point is that, with computer printers, for example, we went through a stage when it was cheaper to buy a new printer than it was to buy the ink cartridges to go in the printer, so people ended up throwing away a perfectly serviceable printer because it was cheaper to buy a new one with printer cartridges installed. I just want to ensure that we do not go that way with this issue.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 September 2024

Edward Mountain

Douglas, is your question specifically on this matter? If not, I will take Bob Doris’s question next.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Passenger Railway Services (Public Ownership) Bill

Meeting date: 3 September 2024

Edward Mountain

It is £58 million.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 September 2024

Edward Mountain

Thank you, Jackie. I have a few questions, but I will make an observation first. Cabinet secretary, it was interesting that you said that disposable vapes are often used by people who are under age. I have certainly seen—I think that we all have—shops where disposable vapes are made attractive to children. I have also seen those shops selling ice creams to attract people. I know of one situation where ice creams were being sold with a disposable vape as a free gift on the side of it. It is quite evident that there is a problem. As long as the Government accepts that the regulations are not going to absolve it from preventing young people who should not be supplied vapes from getting them, I think that they are a step forward.

Is the definition flexible enough to allow future proofing? One of the issues that have been raised with us is the use of coils, but ceramic plates are now used in disposable vapes, and pod vapes are being used. Are you convinced that the legislation will prevent some clever person from getting past the definition of disposable vapes in the regulations?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 September 2024

Edward Mountain

In relation to rechargeable and reusable vapes, vapes that allow one refill before becoming useless could be cheaper than ones that can be refilled numerous times. I do not know—I have never used them. I was a smoker, but I have never been attracted to vaping. How do we avoid that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 September 2024

Edward Mountain

I do not know. All that I am saying is that, if you can get a vape with a cheap battery that can be recharged a couple of times or one with an expensive battery that can be recharged 20 times, for example—I do not know whether those figures are even relevant—the one that can be recharged 20 times will cost more than the cheap one that can be recharged a couple of times. I want to ensure that we do not just move to an intermediate stage at which people throw away something that meets the definition and is cheaper.

David McPhee wants to come in.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 September 2024

Edward Mountain

Thank you, cabinet secretary. Jackie Dunbar has the first question.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 September 2024

Edward Mountain

Would the deputy convener like to ask a question or make a statement? The cabinet secretary will get a chance to answer all the points that have been raised at the end of the debate—or during it, if she wants to.