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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 6 May 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Edward Mountain

Okay; perfect. Yes, I had noted that.

Liam Kerr has some questions.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Edward Mountain

If I set up a ferry company with 25 or 30-year-old vessels—he says with a wry smile—and came to you and suggested that I was going to tender for a job, would you consider me or would I be outside the scope of consideration?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Edward Mountain

On the emissions, do you also think there is a problem with reliability when a ferry gets to that age?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Edward Mountain

Thank you very much. That has been an extraordinarily helpful session for us as part of our inquiry. Thank you very much for giving your time generously to us this morning to help widen our knowledge about ferries and how other countries are dealing with the issues that we are facing in Scotland.

I will suspend the meeting briefly and we will reconvene at 11 o’clock.

10:49 Meeting suspended.  

11:00 On resuming—  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Edward Mountain

Thank you. We are now going to hear from our second panel as part of our inquiry into a modern and sustainable ferry service for Scotland. Joining us to offer their views on the future of ferry provision in Scotland and to discuss their current activities we have ferry operators who provide Government-subsidised services: CalMac Ferries and NorthLink Ferries.

I am delighted to welcome Robbie Drummond, chief executive of CalMac; Stuart Garrett, the managing director of NorthLink Ferries; Kris Bevan, the freight manager of NorthLink Ferries; and Jim Dow, the commercial director of NorthLink Ferries. Thank you all for accepting our invitation and for sending us some useful information in advance. Some of it arrived in response to a letter that was sent just last week, so I am especially grateful to Robbie Drummond for turning that around so quickly. It is helpful to the committee.

The deputy convener, Fiona Hyslop, will lead off.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Edward Mountain

We have just heard about the Norwegian experience, where it is up to the companies to design the ferries that need to fulfil their contract. Is that not the right way to do it?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Edward Mountain

Robbie, you mentioned the figures that you provided to us on cancellations of sailings. I have just had a quick look at them and I am a bit confused. What does “force majeure” mean? The document says that it is within your control.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Edward Mountain

Agenda item 2 is consideration of a draft statutory instrument: the draft Land Reform (Scotland) Act 2016 (Register of Persons Holding a Controlled Interest in Land) Amendment Regulations 2023.

I welcome the Minister for Environment and Land Reform, Màiri McAllan. Thank you for joining us today. I also welcome from the Scottish Government Rebecca Parry, who is a lawyer; Paul Richardson, who is senior policy adviser for land reform; and Fiona Taylor, who is head of the land use and land reform unit.

The instrument has been laid under the affirmative procedure, which means that Parliament must approve it ?before ?it ?comes ?into force. Following the evidence session, the committee will be invited, under the next agenda item, to consider a motion to approve the instrument. I remind everyone that the officials can speak under agenda item 2 but not in the following debate.

I invite the minister to make a short opening statement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Edward Mountain

Thank you very much, minister.

Before I ask my question, I remind committee members and those who are watching of my entry in the register of members’ interests. I own land and I am a tenant farmer on other land, so the issue affects me. However, my question is not about me, minister.

Churches have contacted me—I guess that you were referring to them. They were concerned about the cost, not about the matter being complex. They were concerned about the number of applications that they need to make, as each church and diocese will be different. Have you considered that and whether there is any way of ensuring that the burden on them is kept to an absolute minimum?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 21 February 2023

Edward Mountain

I think that we will leave it there, unless members have any further questions.

We move to agenda item 3, which? is formal consideration of?motion?S6M-07603. I invite the minister to speak to and move the motion.

Motion moved,

That the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee recommends that the Land Reform (Scotland) Act 2016 (Register of Persons Holding a Controlled Interest in Land) Amendment Regulations 2023 [draft] be approved.—[Màiri McAllan]