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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 15 September 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Biodiversity Strategy (Draft Delivery Plan)

Meeting date: 12 December 2023

Edward Mountain

Mark, we are quite tight for time, and I would like to give Finlay Carson and Rhoda Grant two questions each but not to every member of the panel. That is just to be clear, Mr Carson.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Biodiversity Strategy (Draft Delivery Plan)

Meeting date: 12 December 2023

Edward Mountain

Okay. I am afraid that we are at our time limit, Rhoda.

I will ask a final question, which will require a yes or no answer and one sentence. You will all get a chance to answer it.

My problem is that what I have heard this morning is that there needs to be a balance between nature, environment and jobs, and that is absolutely critical. However, we have some dichotomies. For example, are there unseen effects on other species from electro-fishing for razor clams? Do we know what that truly means? Is there habitat destruction from dredging, and is a huge length of time required to recover from that?

I am not going to pass comment on aquaculture, except to say that the Rural Economy and Connectivity Committee report was apposite in 2018 and it remains apposite today. However, there are potential conflicts there between wild salmon and other crustaceans.

When it comes to renewables, that balance may affect demersal fisheries, and it may affect the chopping up of seabirds that are suffering from avian flu. Should we be taking steps to stop the sand eel fishery and ensure that seabirds have enough food? What damage is plastic waste doing to our flora and fauna?

We all want to be good neighbours, but we are all competing for the same space. Is it possible to be good neighbours and to develop everything that the Government wants—yes or no? What is the one thing that each of you needs to do to make sure that that happens?

Does Tavish Scott want to start off on that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Decisions on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 12 December 2023

Edward Mountain

Good morning, and welcome to the 36th meeting in 2023 of the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee.

The first item on the agenda is to consider whether to take items 3, 4 and 5 in private. Item 3 is consideration of the evidence that we will hear today on the biodiversity delivery plan, item 4 is consideration of the list of candidates for appointment to the role of committee adviser, and item 5 is consideration of the list of recommended candidates for appointment to the Scottish Land Commission. Do we agree to take those items in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Biodiversity Strategy (Draft Delivery Plan)

Meeting date: 12 December 2023

Edward Mountain

Does Bob Doris have any further questions?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Biodiversity Strategy (Draft Delivery Plan)

Meeting date: 12 December 2023

Edward Mountain

I have tried to let the conversation run, which will come back to bite me at the end, because not every committee member will get everything that they want from the session. I will slightly squeeze each person’s time to have answers that are as succinct as possible. I move to Bob Doris for the next lot of questions.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Biodiversity Strategy (Draft Delivery Plan)

Meeting date: 12 December 2023

Edward Mountain

If none of you throws your hands up, I will nominate somebody, which is always dangerous. I will not nominate the same person each time. I will start with Elspeth Macdonald and then probably come to Phil Taylor or Calum Duncan.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Biodiversity Strategy (Draft Delivery Plan)

Meeting date: 12 December 2023

Edward Mountain

Thank you all for starting off like that. I do not think that anyone will agree that the status quo is acceptable or that we have 10 years to let it run; we probably do not. We will drill down into the questions. The first is from Douglas Lumsden.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Biodiversity Strategy (Draft Delivery Plan)

Meeting date: 12 December 2023

Edward Mountain

I am sure that you will get the hang of this by the end, Calum. If I cough gently and make a gesture, it means that you need to wind up. That means that I do not have to cut off your microphone.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Biodiversity Strategy (Draft Delivery Plan)

Meeting date: 12 December 2023

Edward Mountain

Does Calum Duncan agree?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Biodiversity Strategy (Draft Delivery Plan)

Meeting date: 12 December 2023

Edward Mountain

Okay. Elspeth, I come to you. [Interruption.] It is very confusing; you do not need to push the button. Do not touch it; the gentleman on your left and my right pushes the buttons. It helps us, and I am sure that it will help you.