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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 10 May 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

COP15 Outcomes

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

Edward Mountain

I am looking round the table to see whether anyone has any other questions. As no one else does at the moment, I have a couple of questions for the minister.

Are you happy with the use of carbon credits and their being attached to land across Scotland?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

COP15 Outcomes

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

Edward Mountain

Would you be happy to see parts of the land and estate that are owned by the Scottish people through the Scottish Government being used to generate carbon credits and finance for the Scottish Government?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

COP15 Outcomes

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

Edward Mountain

You do not have a view on it. Has it been discussed at all? It seems quite fundamental, given the forestry estate that we have, that the Government should be considering or discounting the use of that.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

COP15 Outcomes

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

Edward Mountain

This is an interesting subject, which will continue to vex us. The problem is that short-term gain could come at a long-term cost, whether for individuals, communities or whoever is sold the obligation and takes it on. That was a very interesting question.

We have come to the end of this evidence session, and I suggest that we have a pause until 10.35 before starting the next one, which I am sure will be equally interesting.

10:25 Meeting suspended.  

10:35 On resuming—  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Deposit Return Scheme

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

Edward Mountain

Thank you, minister. The first question is from me. In my six years in the Parliament, I do not think that I have ever come across legislation that caused so many problems as it was being introduced. What is the problem, as you see it? I am then going to ask you how you will solve it.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Deposit Return Scheme

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

Edward Mountain

Okay. If the biggest problem is “misunderstanding”, to use your word, somebody has failed to explain the scheme to the people concerned. Do you have enough time to explain it to those people before the launch in August?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Deposit Return Scheme

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

Edward Mountain

Before we move on, I want to ask a quick question, just so that I understand this. Many rural areas have only one small store selling convenience goods; most people will use it on an ad hoc basis then go to bigger towns and settlements at the weekend to get their messages. Because there is no other shop in the village, there can be no proximity exemption, so the shop cannot get away from being part of the deposit return scheme, and it cannot argue for an environmental health exemption, because all it is doing is selling these things. It will therefore be forced to have a deposit return scheme and forced to take containers from the big shops where most people get their shopping at the weekend. As a result, it will probably end up with a storage yard as big as the shop itself. Is that how you see it, or have I completely misunderstood the situation?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Deposit Return Scheme

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

Edward Mountain

It would be helpful to have some idea of the timescales for the gateway review. Mark Ruskell has questions on other areas.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Deposit Return Scheme

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

Edward Mountain

I am sure that we will ask that question, because I am sure that some of the big multiples will not want to get down to sticking on labels in normal convenience stores for small quantities of products.

The session has been interesting, minister. Thank you very much for your time. I am sure that the committee will have further questions for the Circularity Scotland representatives, who are coming on, I think, 28 March to answer our questions.

I will just continue with our agenda, as we have one further item in public. I am sure that you will be able to slip away quietly, minister, as we move on to that.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 14 March 2023

Edward Mountain

That concludes the public part of our meeting.

11:54 Meeting continued in private until 12:25.