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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 10 May 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 21 March 2023

Edward Mountain

Item 3 is consideration of a type 1 consent notification sent by the Scottish Government relating to a proposed United Kingdom statutory instrument, the REACH (Amendment) Regulations 2023. The UK Government is seeking the Scottish Government’s consent to legislate in this area. The committee’s role in relation to type 1 notifications is to decide whether it agrees with the Scottish Government’s proposal to consent to the UK Government making regulations within devolved competence and in the manner that the UK Government has indicated to the Scottish Government. Are there any comments?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 March 2023

Edward Mountain

I always think that it is difficult to justify payments for doing nothing, and I think that the public find that difficult, too.

The next questions are from the deputy convener, Fiona Hyslop.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 21 March 2023

Edward Mountain

We have one more item, which is the consideration of a negative instrument. This instrument is laid under the negative procedure, which means that its provisions will come into force unless the Parliament agrees to annul them. No motions to annul have been lodged. Do members have any comments on the instrument?

I have one question. I assume that this is done each year. It would be useful to know whether all the money that is levied is collected and whether there is a difference between the levy amount and what is passed to—I assume—Scottish Water. If the committee is happy, we could just write to the minister to ask for that information, so that we can understand what it is. If there are no other comments, is the committee happy to agree that it does not want to make any specific recommendations in relation to this instrument?

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 21 March 2023

Edward Mountain

Good morning, and welcome to the 10th meeting in 2023 of the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee. We have apologies from Ash Regan. I welcome Collette Stevenson, who is joining us as a substitute member.

The first item on the agenda is to decide whether to take items 5 and 6 in private. Under item 5, we will consider evidence that we will hear today as part of our inquiry into Scotland’s electricity infrastructure. Under item 6, we will consider correspondence relating to appointments to the board of Environmental Standards Scotland. Do members agree to take those items in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 March 2023

Edward Mountain

Thank you. I will now ask my question. A book that I read when I was younger and which I still look at is “The Dam Builders—Power from the Glens”, which is a great book. It talks about Scotland’s transition to using renewable energy in the form of hydro pump storage and all the rest of it, with massive dam building. As a result of that, we transferred power to the areas that needed it along what were then superhighways. Scotland’s countryside has been shaped by those superhighways that were put in in the 1950s—the 132kV lines. They were obviously built there for a reason, because that was probably the best route and the most protected route.

Aileen McLeod and Scott Mathieson have talked about planning and the difficulties of it. Because those lines are already there, one way to avoid planning problems would be to make sure that those lines are upgraded, without moving them, and that they form the basis of the superhighway in the future. Is that not a simple answer?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 March 2023

Edward Mountain

Before we leave that, if we went more to a hydrogen system—I know that members will ask about that later—would that get rid of the need for constraint payments, which are quite big?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 March 2023

Edward Mountain

I am confused. Is Mark going—

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 March 2023

Edward Mountain

I would love you to say it as well.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 March 2023

Edward Mountain

You have just told them they do not have a different view so—

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 March 2023

Edward Mountain

I think that we have probably got what we need. It was a nice try, Collette—I am sorry that I could not let you do it.

It has been an interesting session, and I thank the witnesses for their evidence this morning. The fact that we started late and have still run on past the time that we were originally going to have proves how much your evidence is valued. Thank you very much.

I suspend the meeting until 11.05 am to allow for a changeover of witnesses.

10:59 Meeting suspended.  

11:05 On resuming—