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Meeting of the Parliament
Meeting date: 8 October 2024
Edward Mountain
Thank you, Presiding Officer.
I do not believe that the minister had any idea of the problems until they were flagged up as a result of the investigation. Otherwise, the Scottish Government would have done proper workforce planning to ensure that that did not happen. Trying to solve the problem now is like bolting the door after the horse has bolted. Minister, do you think that you really are in charge of what is going on?
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 2 October 2024
Edward Mountain
Ah, finally. I thought that I would have to ask all my questions when Tavish Scott was out of the room, convener. I am glad that he is back because he is going to get some of them.
Ben Hadfield, I would like to take you back mentally to 2 May 2018—I cannot take you back physically. I have no doubt that you will have looked back on that date, because you were in a meeting of the Rural Economy and Connectivity Committee with Scott Landsburgh, talking about salmon farming. I think that Scott said that it was a “difficult and challenging” environment but that it was getting better. To paraphrase your words, Ben, I think that you said that there was a “perfect storm” of mortality, increased temperature and resistance to medication but that mortality would decrease at sea and that you would get it to below 5 per cent. Was that wishful thinking? If it was not wishful thinking, for how long are we going to be sitting at between 20 and 25 per cent mortality at sea?
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 2 October 2024
Edward Mountain
That is helpful. So, are you are saying that, in 10 years, we should be down to a mortality rate of about 15 per cent? Do not get me wrong, I know that no one wants to lose a fish—I am a farmer. I do not want to lose a calf or any animal, and I understand the care that goes into doing those things, because it also affects your bottom line.
12:30Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 2 October 2024
Edward Mountain
In my mind, the bit that we do not know about is whether, when the wild smolts travel out to sea and are in the coastal range before they travel beyond that, they would be clear of sea lice.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 2 October 2024
Edward Mountain
It was not taped—it was recorded by hand.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 2 October 2024
Edward Mountain
With respect, Ben, I have not mentioned wild salmon and I have not been negative. On the basis of your comments to the REC Committee on 2 May 2018, I asked you whether you thought that that was a reasonable comment to make and, if it was, how long you thought that we would have a mortality rate of between 20 and 25 per cent. I never mentioned sea lice and I do not accept that sea lice are the biggest problem that you face. As you have made clear this morning, there are other problems. Therefore, will you answer the question of how long you think that the industry will sit at between 20 and 25 per cent mortality of fish at sea?
Please do not think that I am being negative. In the last committee meeting, I tried to stop a moratorium, and that is what happened. Give me a little bit of leeway, Ben.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 2 October 2024
Edward Mountain
My final point to you is that I think that I reasonably question you and I reasonably challenge the industry.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 2 October 2024
Edward Mountain
On 25 October 2023, at 14:30, when you came into my office, one of your comments, which I note word for word, because it was taken down for me, was:
“This issue and your attitude are top of the agenda for the next Board meeting. The Board are very unhappy with you and are willing to take action against you, unless you retract your comments in the Parliament.”
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 2 October 2024
Edward Mountain
Do you think that that is a respectful way to engage with the Parliament?
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 2 October 2024
Edward Mountain
I am happy to leave it there. If I may, I was trying to identify that people have a right to challenge the industry and question it, so that we can make the industry in Scotland the industry that we want it to be and one that contributes to our export industry. However, I find it difficult when I am being physically or verbally attacked for doing just that.
I will leave it there. I apologise if I spoke over you, convener.