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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 12 May 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

Edward Mountain

Mark, I am going to have to ask you to be brief, on the basis that other committee members want to speak.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

Edward Mountain

Agenda item 2 is consideration of a consent notification on the REACH (Amendment) Regulations 2023. This is a United Kingdom statutory instrument for which the UK Government is seeking the Scottish Government’s consent to legislate in areas of devolved competence. The committee’s role is to decide whether it agrees with the Scottish Government’s proposal to consent to the UK Government making these regulations within devolved competence, and in the manner that the UK Government has indicated to the Scottish Government.

At our most recent meeting, we considered the notification and agreed to request further information from relevant regulatory bodies and the UK Government about the proposed extension to registration dates and the impact in Scotland. Additional letters have been received, which I believe all committee members now have.

We also agreed to invite the Minister for Environment and Land Reform to give evidence today. We have until 31 March to respond to the Scottish Government’s notification so, straight after today’s evidence session, we aim to come to a view.

I am therefore pleased to welcome Màiri McAllan, Minister for Environment and Land Reform. Minister, thank you for attending at short notice. I also welcome Dan Merckel, chemicals team leader, and Ailsa Heine, lawyer, both from the Scottish Government.

We have around 20 to 25 minutes for this item. Before we move to questions, minister, I believe that you would like to make a very brief opening statement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

Edward Mountain

I am happy for you to come in, Dan, but I think that the minister has made that point clear. Fiona Hyslop, are you happy with that?

09:15  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

Edward Mountain

Thanks, Liam.

I have been quiet but I will now ask a question at the end.

We have seen the length of time that it took to build the Beauly to Denny power line, and I have watched the building of the substations at Beauly and Blackhillock—which are getting bigger and bigger—and seen the problems caused to, and the consternation of, local people who live near them or see them.

Would the correct signal be to transmit that energy as hydrogen in underground pipe networks, which seem to require less infrastructure and are less of a scar on the landscape? Should everyone put out that signal, or is that too simplistic?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Deposit Return Scheme

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

Edward Mountain

I am slightly scratching my head on this. What is the advice? What are retailers supposed to do, apart from consult with somebody else?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Electricity Infrastructure Inquiry

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

Edward Mountain

You are right, Jack. There are transmission losses, too, as you generate and move electricity around the countryside on power lines. However, I understand the difficulties of putting a 400kV line underground—we discussed that point in relation to the Beauly to Denny line. It is possible, and things are moving forward, but just because you have what you have does not mean that it is right for the future.

On that note, I suspend the meeting for five minutes to allow a change-over of witnesses. Thank you very much for attending.

10:33 Meeting suspended.  

10:41 On resuming—  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Deposit Return Scheme

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

Edward Mountain

It would be helpful if you would write to the committee to answer that question. I will get the clerks to ensure that it is relayed to you, as it was on the record.

Mr Ewing, you were always difficult to keep to time when you were sitting at the far end of the table. I urge you to ask only one further question; otherwise, you will upset Mr Whittle, who is sat right next to you.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Deposit Return Scheme

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

Edward Mountain

Okay.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Deposit Return Scheme

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

Edward Mountain

I have been getting dirty looks from some people around the table who want to ask more questions. I will repeat what I said—I am going to let the session run on a wee bit so that the members who are not part of the committee can ask their questions. They do not have to worry—I will let them in in due course.

Before I bring in Liam Kerr to ask his next questions, I have a question for David Harris, which might be of help. David, you talked about an exemption scheme and the ability to exempt small businesses. Would it be helpful to tell us when those guidelines need to be in place in order to make it work? This month? Next month?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Deposit Return Scheme

Meeting date: 28 March 2023

Edward Mountain

Okay, thanks. I come to Collette Stevenson.